Buying a car from a person leasing a car

Hi All,

I am planning to buy a used car from a person who is currently leasing this car.

What should be the sequence of events?

The seller has to buy out the car from the leasing company and then I will pay him for a car, correct?

The seller is offering me to pay for a car first so he can re-pay the leasing company and after that he would give me the car. Was not sure this is the safe approach, that's why asking your opinion/experience.

Thank you!

I don't know the ins and outs, but I would never do this.

I would not give any money directly to the seller until the car is paid for. Write up a simple contract offering to pay off the lender, and then pay the owner any remaining difference to the price you are paying for the car.

This is a really risky thing in my mind, and hopefully you are getting a HUGE discount on the car. I did this once on a camper, and was able to get it for about 40% off the value, because no one else was willing to do the deal. I did have a lawyer write up the contract describing what was going on, but it was still risky.

We have done this. 9 years on, we still own the car.

Tom

Is there a way you can pay the leasing company directly? When I sold my car to a garage in the U.K. the garage could see I still had finance on it, they insisted on paying the finance company directly rather than paying me and me paying of the loan afterwards.

It has to be based on your feeling, but get a SIGNED contract with his full details and get him to surrender his ID card or Passport until the transaction is finalised.

Get the leasing company to agree to this, in writting.

If you think it stinks, walk away as it almost certainly does stink !

If someone cannot pay a car at the end of the leasing from savings or a loan, this person has financial problems. Not necessarily bad per se, but financial hardship makes good people do bad things. If it's a friend, acquaintance or family and you have reasons to trust them, it should be fine. Randos from the internet, no.

How does you buying him another car ("a car" isn't the leased car, right? that would be "the car") enable him to end the lease and pay the balance? That wouldn't affect his liquidity and ability to do his part one bit, if he can do it afterwards he can just as well do it beforehand.

What you describe is a scam.

Run and don't look back.

I think you mis-understood. The seller wants the OP to pay him for the car, then the seller will pay the leasing company with that money.

Sure, that's the probable scenario. I just can't change what OP's written, hence the question.

OP clearly means the car, it's just a language mistake.

Yes, it's the same car.

Thank you All for the answers, will try to find another way or another car

Why?

We've done it that way, no scam.

Tom

There is a possibility, that they give you the car but don’t pay it off, leaving you with a car that the leasing company still owns!

It's not a scam as the seller is perfectly up-front with it. You need to be careful, do you have a good feeling about the seller ? Respectable, family, job, etc etc.

Sure you need to be careful, but from what you have said it is hardly a scam.

Lot's can go wrong. They can outright scam you. Take the money and run.

The car can get damaged in between.

The person can go bankrupt and lose everything he has including the money.

They could die with debts and the money is offset against those debts.

Nearly all of the above also applies when the car is not on a lease.

Friend went through with it, got Code 178 cleared, and is now the happy owner of a reasonable priced car.

I would agree with some of the others here that it is not necessarily a scam, but homework needs to be done.

What is important to to check is if you have first right of purchase at the end of the lease. In many cases the lease companies or dealers take back leased cars, especially if they are in very good condition.

If it's a lease, field 178 in the car permit says "Changement de detenteur interdit", meaning "prohibited to change vehicle holder" or something like that. It means the cantonal vehicle registration office will not accept the transfer of vehicle title to another person until the leasing company tells them the debt has been fully paid.

There's an older thread on EF dealing with this topic.

https://www.englishforum.ch/finance-...-contract.html