Hello everyone,
I am a non-EU citizen, and My husband is an EU citizen. We want to move to Switzerland. My husband would like to get a job there, and then apply for B permit. once he got a B permit, I should have one as well.
I heard people said if you want to start a business, you have to hold a C permit, or show the immigrant office that you will hire local people?
I am not sure i would like to hire anyone from the beginning, so if I am not about to hire someone but only myself, how can I do open this business here?
If I can't, since we will have the B permit, I could start a business somewhere else and work on it in Switzerland anyway, right?
Thank you everyone!
even you don't hire anyone but yourself?
Welcome to the Forum. Please take a moment to review some of the many threads on starting a business in Switzerland.
https://www.englishforum.ch/search2....ing+a+business
It's a lot of reading, but I think you'll find most of your questions have been answered, and then if you have more specific questions you can continue asking them. But do try search first.
Maybe I should say something more about my plan, then you guys could see the problem maybe.
I should like to start an online business. for example, i could be booking some hotel rooms for people who need it. At this point, my customers could be anyone around the world; the hotel on my website could be anywhere in the world too.
So will it be a problem for me to do it in Switzerland? The only reason we want to live in Switzerland is because my husband want to work there, so i move there at the same time, because it doesn't matter where i do my business since it is an online business.
I just want to know if there is a problem for me to do my online business during the time while I live in Switzerland?
Thank you all for your opinion if you have one.
I guess you really don't need our opinions. You need to know the law.
I've no experience on this at all, but Googling a couple of relevant words brought this site . Might be worth checking through it.
You've quite a few hurdles ahead of you anyway if your husband hasn't got a job here either, so digging around for your own information will help you learn a lot about this country and its laws.
Happy hunting.
Owwwww, you removed all those nice links and put them into one :-(
Welcome to the forum Joanna.
Can I just ask if the business plan you've given is in the travel industry, or are you just giving that as an example of the business model would be operating in another industry? Just asking as the plan you've given requires a huge credit facility plus industry accreditation and protection.
I wondered how many folk had seen that mess before I managed to delete it all. I haven't a clue where it got all those links from - maybe all the stuff I had looked up in the last week! They were nothing to do with the matter in question at all, sharp eyes.
Yes, you can set up as a sole trader. So long as you have your B permit via your marriage to your EU spouse you can be employed or self-employed. Still need the business plan and sufficient funding of course to show the Swiss authorities, but if they’re happy your permit will be changed to show you’re a self-employed person.
Check out
this section for 'citizens of third states' though.
Only holders of a valid C permit (settlement permit for third-country nationals), the spouse of a C permit holder or the spouse of a Swiss citizen have the legal right to establish their own business in Switzerland.
All other persons have no legal right to set up their own business. They must submit an application to the respective cantonal authorities. Apart from the necessary personal requirements, it is decisive in the evaluation that the company will have a "lasting positive effect or influence on the Swiss labour market".
Isn’t that more or less what I said? Present business plan/funding, get permission and off you go.
Hello Blueangel,
I couldn't say it is all about travel industry, but it is part of my business plan. What do you mean by "huge credit"? I know it could grow to something big if i am lucky enough, but I am planning to start small.
Honestly, It is something similar to booking.com, I am planning to do some booking for some people. So all I need to do is sign some contracts with business partners, and get customers. I don't know what huge credits do I need? And how do I get them? Thanks a lot!
Can't comment much further without knowing the full business plan, and I appreciate that you wouldn't divulge that. Do you already operate a similar business in Canada? I was just asking the question because all travel and hotel bookings require a form of guarantee. This can be a corporate lodge (credit) card, guarantee to agency, or guarantee with the client's credit card.
Anyway, this is all off in the future and the first step is your husband getting a job in Switzerland. Good luck.
Thank you for your answer.
But I can't be sure they would like my plan.
what is the difference if my permit will be changed to show i am a self-employed person?
I heard people said the Swiss authority will see if you will hire local people, then decide whether to give you this permission to start a business there. Honestly, i don't think i could afford to hire anyone from the beginning.
I know it is difficult, because it is almost impossible for me to hire people in Switzerland during my start up time. That is why I think it could be the best if I start up a company somewhere else but work on it while i live in Switzerland.
I don't think I need to pay taxes for this, i should only pay taxes to the country where my business base is.
I think you need to keep researching.
You need a work permit as you will be working in Switzerland.
You will pay taxes in Switzerland as you will be earning in Switzerland.
Why do keep mentioning hiring people? The advice you are being given has not once mentioned hiring people.
You are mixing up several different questions all together.
Do you want to be self employed or do you want to start a company?
Thank you!
I haven't start the business in Canada yet. But thank you for telling me that. I didn't know that before, but i will try my best to handle that guarantee.
And my husband works at IT field, and he is good at it, so it shouldn't be a problem for him to get a job there i think.
yeah you remind of me this. exactly, I am doing self-employ business, why do I have to prove to the Swiss authorities that I will have positive affect on Switzerland's labour market? I am confuse now.
As I say, I will have the B permit, which allows me to work in Switzerland. But I will be just doing my old business, so the taxes i will pay is my personal income? Because I shouldn't pay income for my company, because it is not base in Switzerland. And i will only pay for my personal income if I have any. At my start up time, I don't think I will have any profits.
Sorry, I want to start a company, but I am the sole owner for the beginning, and i will be working for myself.
I remember there is a business type is sole ownership. I think that is equal to self-employed, no?
Finding a job in CH is a huge hassle, trust me
A sole trader is self employed. There is not "company to pay taxes. It's only you. You pay taxes on whatever business is generated. You and the business are one and the same. So, you will be living and working in Switzerland. So you will be paying taxes in Switzerland.
If you want to start a "real" company you need to set up an SARL or an SA, at least if the business is a Swiss company. Ownership of these companies is not relevant. You can own it alone or with others. Then these companies would pay you a salary. This salary would be taxes where you work, IE Switzerland.
In any case, if you are the owner of a business in another country you still need to list that on your taxes as assets.
Then it will be the best. We don't need to go to Switzerland, it saved all the troubles i am having right now.
But we are not in a rush, we will move there if he can find a job there. So no pressure on this.