Change in UK personal pensions, 100% cash now possible

The UK Budget has made some huge changes, no longer is it a requirement to take an annuity. I don't know how the 25% tax free lump sum or using the UK's 10k personal allowance would be taxable in CH.

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-26654759

They're trusting people with their own money?!?

Labour won't like that...

Can that be retrospective???

Not if your already taking an annuity. If you had entered into a complicated income drawdown scheme possibly.

So who makes money from this?

Exactly, Gideon Osborne is a shrewd man and very calculated.

UK residents will pay tax at their marginal rate, so more tax will be paid & that tax will be paid sooner on pensions than under annuities. Double win for the exchequer.

A good budget for savers and pensioners who've not yet bought an annuity.

The pension changes are massive. Technically, you've not been forced to buy an annuity for 2 or 3 years now through income drawdown but it was a bit messy. The new system simplifies it. Essentially, do what you want with your pension pot.

Tory opponents have been struggling to deal with the news. Labour and the TUC have been agitating for these changes, confident that they wouldn't happen for a while. But suddenly, bang, they have happened, and they don't quite know what to do. Labour have finally come out and given the reforms a guarded welcome, but they look uncomfortable.

This is great news. As I approach retirement I'm looking forward to a pretty substantial sum.As you never know how long you will collect an annuity I would rather have the cash. It would take as an average 20 years or so to claw back your own money.

The following discussion seems relevant, especially the second comment:

Ponzi scheme architect jailed for 40 months

"So he'll be out before the end of next year, and will no doubt be rubbing his hands together at the thought of all those pension pots being unlocked. ... I dread to think of the number of people who are going to lose their life's savings to tw*ts like this. I suspect Bromley will become the Lamborghini capital of England!"

How ironic:

Budget 2014: The chancellor's plan to unlock pensions

Financial Conduct Authority's warning on pension unlocking

"We urge you to be wary of any schemes that offer the chance to take money from your pension by unlocking some of your retirement pot early. ... Early access to a pension is rarely in anyone’s long-term financial interests."

It would be interesting to know what Osborne will think of anyone who does end up losing their life savings to fraudsters. Could this be a clue?

Eyes down . . . how Osborne dodged blame for bingo gaffe

"The controversial post-Budget bingo “poster” blamed on Grant Shapps, the Tory chairman, was designed in the Treasury and signed off by the Chancellor, the Telegraph has learnt. After the advertisement highlighting cuts to bingo tax and beer duty was issued it was dubbed a condescending public relations disaster and there were calls for Mr Shapps to be sacked. But according to Tory MPs, appalled that the party chairman was forced to take the blame, it was approved at the highest level and George Osborne was enthusiastic about it."

1. The penalty for unlocking has not disappeared. - it's gone from 55% to your marginal tax rate, almost always 40-45% for big withdrawals.

2. So....it'll affect almost no one. If you've got a big pension pot, leave it where it is, invest it, draw down GAD...120%, 150%. You don't want more because it'll end up as less (you'll erode the pension pot) unless you think you can get 10%+ growth per year.

3. This is if the law passes, they haven't passed it yet.

4. You won't be able to withdraw your whole pension pot with just Swiss/no tax liability if you live overseas. What's going to stop you? I don't know, but they'll find something.

i wonder what happens when people blow their pension pot in a year or two and have nothing to fall back on?

It's a rational choice, they'll have the state pension to fall back on. And they'd have paid enough tax to find it for quite a while. After you've taken your 25% tax free, go buy your Porsche. Take out your 150k, pay...what 60k tax on that. Then of the 90k to buy the car you'll be contributing another 18k in VAT. And all that fuel tax etc.

They'll fall back on the tiny state pension, benefits and food banks. I can only assume that the Tories think that they'll be out of power by the time the midden really hits the windmill and can blame Labour for the sudden upsurge in pensioner poverty (and the bursting of yet another housing bubble, fuelled by pensioners using their pots to help children/grandchildren buy homes).

Having said that, the annuity business has been a scam for years and it's long past time that something was done about it. I'm just unconvinced that this is the right something.

Heaven forbid that people take responsibility for themselves.

I've ordered my Lamborghini already

There will always be some who don't/won't/can't unless they're made to, and then the burden of looking after them falls on everyone else. I don't think this is a good deal for taxpayers in the long-run, unless British society decides that its happy to let the foolish or unlucky starve.

Perhaps he really does want them to be able to eat like him.

George Osborne defends choice of gourmet Byron burger

Food Poverty: 1.5m UK Pensioners Struggling

I will be able to unlock mine 100%

Using the 10k UK personal allowance after the 25% tax free lump sum. It will take a few years & no tax to pay in Malta .

I any even transfer my Swiss pension to the UK

They will get social security