total value about 600 eur, but seems a bit extreme doesn't it? i could understand it if i was carrying 600 eur of random new stuff over the border, but given that they are wheels doesn't that sort of count as part of the car? what's the difference between wheels mounted and in the back? what if it was just one? how many 'spare' wheels are you allowed before it counts as merchandise / contraband?
this morning i was taking 4 new wheels over the border to mount tyres on them. they sent me back with a telling off and told me i needed to use the commercial border and declare them. apparently they were 'doing me a favour' by not seizing them.
Your importing goods, as it's only temporary you need a carnet.
Order tyres from rifendirect & have them delivered to CH.
So if you were driving a truck and it was filled with new engines, would that count as part of the truck?
i do - but my tyre machines are in italy.
If they're mounted it's pretty clear beyond reasonable doubt that they are yours for your personal use. If you've got them brand spanking new in the back of the vehicle you could be taking them across to sell them or fit them to a car registered on the other side or any number of scenarios where you would normally have to pay duty.
Sounds like the border guards took a sympathetic view of it, though.
Bring them one at a time.
Anything over EUR 600 needs to use the commercial border (Italian rules, not Swiss).
And yes, the Italians can be more Swiss than the Swiss sometimes.
Tom
that's the question though. is one at a time ok because of the low value or because one counts as a spare? these were actually probably a touch under 600 eur. how much is tax free? is it like entering switzerland where one person can carry 300 chf duty free? if so i'll just try again with the receipt and my wife in the car to make up numbers.
the italian border guards annoy the crap out of me. compared to the swiss they are incredibly rude, inconsistent (and badly dressed). they normally seem to make up rules on the spot that vary each time, shout at you for a while and then let you go anyway.
looks like its 300 eur person.
https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_custom...entering-eu_en
as there are 4 individual wheels that cost 580 eur in total i'm going to try again with my wife in the car.
Anything which has clearly no touristic use (See Istanbul Convention On Temporary Admission http://www.wcoomd.org/en/topics/faci...em_conven.aspx ) OR the customs suspect it may remain in the country. In the past this was even music instruments. Not much of an issue with some old beat up guitar, more of a problem when it is a Stradivari or a Guarneri.
Still an issue if you can not claim the tourist clause (because you are a resident in the country):
Be careful, a set of tires or wheels may be considered as one single item. The value of a single item can not be split over multiple persons.
And as Tom says, the Italians are real sticklers when it comes to tax and duty. Lot of things which in Switzerland leads to a nice reminder to please sort up the mater at the next customs office may be handled in Italy with confiscation of the goods which may only be released when you pay a multiple of its actual value.
does the 600 eur include the fully landed cost or just the value? these are under 600 eur just for the purchase cost but slightly over if i add the shipping cost i paid to have them delivered.
the invoice is for 4 items individually priced.
So... what about that $1500 iphone x?
Or a laptop?
How do touring musicians do that? :-o
They need a ATA Carnet just like everybody else.
I tried again with just one wheel worth less than 160 eur and the receipt. They still turned me back! Told me if you have any goods whatsoever you must go to a commercial customs post and not the tourist customs. Even if it's a pair of shoes or something. You then need to declare it but don't pay anything under €300 value.
I smell bullshit here and think they were just trying to piss me off and save face. The EU rules I read said you don't even need to declare anything under the €300 limit.
So I duly turned around and drove to nearest commercial crossing (stabio) which wasnt manned so I just drove right through.
Waste of a morning.
Which crossing did you try?
Gaggiolo is the only on where I've had to deal with it.
Anyway, technically they are correct, and you are the one trying stuff to get around the law.
You are resident in CH, and bringing goods OUT of the country, classic smuggling as far as they are concerned.
Tom
Yeah, giaggiolo (stabio) is where I ended up crossing.
I was trying the next one at bizzarone which is more convenient for where I was going.
Where does your previous reference to 'over 600 eur needs commercial crossing' come in? Seems like over €0 needs commercial crossing if they are correct.
That is for Italy to Switzerland, the opposite of what you are doing, could well be that for bringing stuff into Italy it is €0 for non-Italian residents.
The head guy at Gaggiolo even showed me the book where it was written.
Tom