In 2008 I bought GPS device - Garmin Nuvi 200W at microspot.ch. It works well and fine. Today I started to look deeper at it's settings and features and I discovered that it contains "Stadard Garmin radar database" option in Settings.
Taking into account that in CH the radar db in GPS is prohibited I raise this question, what problems I might met with police? The option "radar controle" is off and I never turned it on. However, basing on this: http://www.astra.admin.ch/themen/ind...Sn6A--&lang=en
"any device is prohibied which contains a database of radars". So even if it is not enabled, it is still illegal and can be confiscated . I even do not have USB cabel to remove something, and this menu item "controle radar" cannot be removed. What happens if I got stopped by police and they will start to look at settings of the device and will discover that option?
I am not sure my explanation: "I did not know about it and I never enabled it will work with swiss police". What do you think?
Send an email to Garmin technical support. They may have an updated firmware that removes the POI label for speed cameras. You will need the USB cable for installing firmware.
It looks like you have to use Garmin POI Loader software to remove the Speed Camera POI data.
The 2008 European map from Garmin does not have speed POI for Switzerland. There is an option to turn on the speeds camera detection but it only works in countries which are legal to have them. I have it turned on on my Nuvi 760 and it gives me warnings on fixed cameras when I am in France, but nothing in Switzerland. You have nothing to worry about.
That is what garmin recommends http://iqc.garmin.com/eCustomer/KODSelfService/request.do?session={46f71560-546d-11de-f35c-000000000000}&event=1&view()=c{2f1ce770-0a6d-11de-76c5-000000000000}&objectId=&eksObjectId=&objectType=Ca se&isJumpEnabled=false&isContentJumpEnabled=false& vendorKey=&versionId=105&objectScore=90&from=searc h
Thanks for the reply. So the question is how they detect that device has camera POI. If by looking at settings - in this case mine and your devices has this option and we are out of luck. Or they are asking you to approach to radar and look at GPS device. The second variant is absurd for them - i.e., too much of movements ...
How will you proof to them that POI works only out of CH?
The following is a quote from the document you linked earlier:
Note what is underlined. It is only devices which concern Swiss cameras that are illegal. It is not illegal to have warning information for other juristicions. The GPS manufacturers stopped providing POI warning for speed cameras in 2007. I know many people who had these warnings and when they updated their devices around mid 2007 the Swiss warnings were actually deleted by the updates. Newer versions never had the Swiss database in the first place. The police will know that.
It is possible to download POI warnings for Switzerland from other sources, and I would be pretty sure that the police will know where to look for these on your device if they wanted to. If your device is from 2008 and only has its factory POI's then I think you are safe.
Why not take a walk past your local radar gun with the POI warning turned on on your GPS if you want piece of mind. On my device I have it on as a matter of course, but only ever get warnings out of Switzerland.
You can also check to see if you really have the Swiss POI's on it. I know that other brands had them but not sure if Garmin ever did.
Either way you should probably update your maps if they are three years old. I think (at least I got) one free upgrade with my device. I have subsequently updated my maps to 2009. The 2010 Maps are now available.
IN the words of the Hitch Hikers Guide DON'T PANIC!
What you're talking about is a database of known fixed camera locations - it is not a radar detector so the only way the police will ever know that you have such a database is if they actually look at your machine. That means either in a routine control or if you do something stupid that warrants their attention. Just driving around with the database installed is unlikely to get you pulled over by the police.
I have a new TomTom 740 that has fixed camera installations for plenty of countries - when driving in Germany, Austria and Hungary recently it was giving me warnings but in CH it does chirrup, belch, cough or give any indication of a grey collection box anywhere.
Here 's an elaborate website about the legal background, court decisions and point of view of the Federal Roads Office (in German). In December 2008 the highest Swiss court ruled that a 300 Fr. fine for a driver who used POIs in canton Aargau was justified.