Driving with a roof box - opinions

I know asking for opinions might be dangerous on this forum but here goes.

I'm thinking of buying a roof box but have never driven with one. For those who have, what are your experiences, opinions, prejudices, etc.

I'm especially interested in effects on handling, noise and economy. Alternatively, if you know of any good data on the web testing their effects that would be excellent (I've only found a very limited amount of reliable info).

When/if we buy one it will be fitted to a 3 series BMW and most often used on long trips at motorway speeds.

Many thanks

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Economy is shot to pieces but the noise is fine. We can't hear the kids or granny at all when they are in the roof box.

No idea about economy but i have permanently a roof box on my car and i have zero problems. The car also was on a round trip to the UK and my OH said he had no problems. Its very convenient to have it actually. No noise either

I had a Thule Al.....something which was sold for one reason....I made a whisteling sound and I could not make it stop.

The fuel economy takes a 10-15% increase but the handling of the car will not change that much if you don't overload the box.

Suggest that you buy two Mammut fabric straps that you can use to use to keep the roof box closed (and give a bit more protection at the rest stops). Cheap insurance.

We put/wrapped the straps around the roof bars as well (both sides) to give some added security as the clips that keep the box on the roof bars seem a bit on the light side. We had the box (450 L) filled to the brim.

The Mammut straps are available at Obi, Coop Brico, Hornbach etc.

Our car went from 9l/100km to 10l/100km at french motorway cruising speeds.

That's because drag is proportional to velocity squared.

Go slower and the hit on fuel consumption isn't nearly so great.

I read something a while back that said that fuel consumption is affected by some factors as much as previously thought.

Opening windows, air-con, roof boxes (not bars) etc really don't make much difference.

The big difference is with speed. Drive a bit lower and save loads.

To the OP:

We sometimes use a roof box:

It's a bit noisy (no loud whistling though)

Be careful in some low car parks if you have a tall box and a tall car.

It's amazing how much you can get in them but be careful of the weight limits.

That's not entirely right.Drag increases with the square of speed. However for any given speed, adding drag will add to consumption - try checking a convertible with roof up vs roof down, and see whether open windows don't make a difference ;-)

And yes, a roof box is a huge drag factor.

don't forget its on when going into a low roof parking space, else you'll end up with a 3k roof repair bill

we have a 3 series bmw too and frequently use a roof box on long distance trips.

handling = no different

economy = less km per litre

noise = slight low pitched noise at higher speeds..............

Thanks for all the responses so far.

This article ( http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/au...thbusters.html ) is the best I have found up until now and agrees with everything said here (pretty much). I would say that there is a big difference between windows open and top down but I'm not arguing with anything.

The difficulty I'm having is quantifying the impact on economy as it will depend on so many factors but thanks for the personal experience information, that's about as good as it gets.

The jury is still out then on the noise issue though. Can't say I fancy driving 8 hours with some nagging whine going on but I guess that was what Sandgrounder was recommending...

Looks like a "suck it and see" approach is needed if I can accept the cost impact if I have to get rid of the box.

Cheers

Ballpark figure for the less km per litre? I can return 6l/100km normally quite easily (well, if I'm wearing my slippers, a nice cardigan and drive like my Dad) and I'm assuming an increase of around 1l/100km wouldn't be unreasonable.

But simplified, doubling the speed, quadruples the drag. i.e. driving say at 100Km/hr will be much, much for efficient than going at 140Km/hr.

So, a roof box is a huge drag factor if you go faster.

I wonder if you mount it upside down, the lift produced will decrease your rolling resistance

Anyway:

Here's the article I mentioned. I don't know how accurate it is.

Actually it is far more complicated than just drag. Fuel consumption is also related to frontal area - 2 cars with identical engines, gearing and drag - but different frontal areas - may well have vastly different consumption figures.

Additionally an empty roof box will increase fuel consumption than a (overladen) one - 100kg?

Maximum load on the roof for a 3 series is 75 kilos, might also want to keep that in mind when you load the kids and granny in there.

Well the only way to really find out is by experimentation, with and without a roof box in the same car on the same road with the same type pressure with the same weather conditions etc etc etc.

Anyway, with or without the roof box, the speed makes the greatest difference to fuel economy so driving like an old lady isn't such a bad idea.

Although my grandmother drove a BMW 3 series when she was 80 until the Police managed to catch up with her and promptly took it away

In my personal experience there is a big difference between a half width ski box and a full width box. I put a ski box (Thule Alpine 500 350L) on the car every winter and it makes very little difference to noise or fuel consumption. Very convenient to just shove all the skis in as well.

For a recent trip to the UK I bought a full width 580l box and the difference was marked. At 130Kmh on the Autoroutes I would say it knocked the normal range from 900km down to 750 adding to the worry of finding petrol in France.

Nevertheless the difference that a 580L box makes to carrying capacity is amazing to an ordinary family car with 5 passengers and a dog. As other people said just try not to put the heavy stuff in it.

The Thule Alpine 500 is for sale by the way for 200CHF. It is more suitable for the winter season but I just don't want 2 boxes.

depends also on the box: some are slicker then others. We got a huge box, ( www.surfbox.de ) which did not really add noise. Driving an SUV the fuel consumption also did not change that much. Extra on the surfbox (which never contained surfboards, only ski's etc) is that it is able to do 200 km/h (if you would want to drive that fast with a box)

Yeah....works very well in most cases