eBill double payment error Friday 31.5.2024 UBS - correction onus on customers

Apparently on Friday 31.5.2024, ebill charged many customers twice for a single payment. In my case it was a Swisslife deduction of around 573chf (x2).

I notified the bank per email on Monday and got a reply yesterday that they were “on the case”.

This morning I opened e-banking to a pop-up saying I had been affected and should check my statements (fair request). But then it suggested I contact the payee to see if they had received the double payment and/or refunded the amount.
It went on to say I could request a “start enquiry” on the transaction menu. However it warned this would be charged (30chf!!) and the no categories in the dropdown fitted this issue.

Anyone else afffected? I have written back to the bank telling them I expected them to sort it out. Waiting for a response.

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That’s worrisome.

But, automated or manual ebill payments?

Automated. It’s regular deduction.

I accept this mistake can occur, but I don’t accept that the onus is on me to fix.

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I agree . It was their mistake and they should be the ones to fix it and you certainly shouldn’t have to pay for it.

Definitely not for you to pay for. Contact the issuer? They should correct this.

UPDATE: They have written back to my last email saying I don’t have to do anything, but at the same time they are giving no timeline for the refund. I’m guessing the issue is that the money has been forwarded to the payees institution and therefore not so easily retrievable. For me, this is a cost they should bear in the interim.

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Sorry, I’m slow. Just want to understand the “how”. So, ebill either sends an invoice twice, or doubles the amount in a single invoice. Since this is pre-approved (automated payment), UBS sends the money at the date set by ebill.

You will probably want to punch me in the face, but the entities liable are either the original invoice issuer (swisslife) or ebill/SIX payments. All the bank did was following your instructions to automatically pay invoices sent by this invoice issuer.

Once a shop charged two times. Don’t remember exactly, but it took 3-4 weeks for the whole thing being clarified and solved by UBS.

I double-paid once and asked UBS what to do. They said it wasn’t possible to reverse a payment once made (ie how would you like a someone taking money out of your account without permission?).

I contacted the company involved and they agreed to refund the money.

I agree it’s a pain to fix their mistake, but non-reversible transactions are actually in our favour.

Isn’t that exactly what they did by making a double payment.

I wouldn’t ask them to reverse it, just compensate me.

No it is some kind of system error. In the “payments” history of my e-banking, the transaction is recorded once (as normal). In my account transaction history, the payment is booked twice and my debited twice accordingly.

Given how elaborate the pop-up was yesterday, I would say this way a batch error affecting only the 31.May

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2 weeks on, still no refund. I have escalated to my client advisor, but not sure I’ll get much action from them.

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Usually, you get an automated email that the message was delivered and the client advisor takes 1-3 days to answer.

Well, after 2.5 weeks and a few nasty emails via e-banking, they have finally refunded the double payment. Nothing more to see here.

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Thanks for the follow-up.