Employer Contribution to Social Security

Hi EFers

I have a job offer as a Research Scientist in the University of Bern, and I would like to get more information on Employer contributions to the 2 pillars of social security.

How much does the employer contribute to my social security? Do they match my contribution or is there a flat rate? For example the SNSF (Swiss national science foundation) shows flat rate of 15% for Bern. Is this rate followed by SNF only or is it applicable to the Univ of Bern as well?

I was working previously in ETH Zurich and have been working outside Europe for the last 1 year. When I left CH in 2015 I received a lump sum amount for AHV and OASI. However when I did a rough calculation I found that my employer's (ETH) contribution to be significantly less than what I contributed to social security. Can anyone explain this?

Also can we voluntarily increase our contribution to AHV and OASI? Will the employer also match this contribution?

Greatly appreciate answers from all EFers!

AHV/IV is a fixed percentage of gross salary, currently 5.125%, paid equally both by you and the employer, which makes it 10.25% in total. A part of it however is for insurance rather than pension. I think the pension component is only 4.2% of 5.125%.

No, but you can make voluntary payments to pillar 2 and 3. It's tax deductible and reclaimable just as well. I don't think employers wouldn't match such extra contribution as a rule.

Social security (AHV) is 1st pillar, 2nd (and 3rd) pillar are pension funds.

Tom

I've just had a look at a salary slip - the deduction is labelled "AHV/IV/EO/ALV" and is at 6.25%

Funny, mine is 5,125 %

AHV/IV/EO is the proper first pillar. ALV is unemployment insurance, about 1%, but the rate drops above a certain salary threshold.

1.1 % until 148,200/year, 0.5% on amounts above that.

(the old limit was 126,500)

Tom

If I remember correctly, one is required to pay this back into the system if one returns shortly afterwards....

Hi Jim2007

Can you point to some sources that clarify this issue?

I couldnt find anything definitive through searching online!

Does this contribution vary with the canton of residence?

How much would it be for Bern?

No, it depends on your salary

Unfortunately not. I just remember it being pointed out to us at a pension information meeting, my company gave about 10 years ago.

https://www.sem.admin.ch/dam/data/se…zialvers-e.pdf

My guess is that it would be repayable in the same way that you’d have to repay any pension money used to buy a house here if you decide to sell and move to another country.

Could try contacting

https://www.ahv-iv.ch/en/Social-insurances

and see what they can advise.

Thanks for the links!

I see what you mean. It is stated that those who leave Switzerland permanently are entitled to be paid the benefits as a lump sum amount. But in my case I didnt really leave permanently if I return in the future (although that was not planned).

I have mailed the SCO and pension office and hopefully will get an authoritative answer soon .

Thanks everyone for sharing their advise

I emailed Sicherheitsfonds BVG and they said " If you return to work in Switzerland, there is no obligation to return the contributions from former periods. Without this savings, your age insurance in Switzerland will though be with a gap "

I havent heard from OASI, but one representative from PUBLICA (who handled my previous account) said that there is no obligation to return the money either to pension funds or OASI.

So I guess this is good news !

Sort of, but you should look at repaying some if not all of both to get them back up to full value unless you have other plans to make sure you have enough to live on when you retire.

Note: it is up to the employee to check the employer has been paying the correct amount into his AHV account. Employees can ask the relevant AHV office for a statement of the account.

The AHV account should be correct one year after the appropriate employment period. Employees can only claim up to 5 years for any missing contributions from employers.

Total waste of money for rather unclear long term benefit. Better put the money into stock market

Sbrinz,

Would you know, where in Zurich can one request for an annual AHV contribution statement?

How can I check my current AHV contributions ever since I came here to CH?

Thanks

Your AHV statement can be ordered on-line at this link:

https://www.ahv-iv.ch/en/Leaflets-fo...vidual-account