Employer formal obligations: hiring a live-in Nanny in Switzerland

Family, Education, Health and Pets
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I am hiring someone for the first time in Switzerland (babysitter, not aupair) to take care of my children but I am quite lost about Payroll obligations. In concrete I would like to know where can I find a sample contract and a software (or internet website) which could help me to calculate the deductions every month. A part from that where should I pay the deductions? (is there a formular, can I do it online?) how often?

Is there any website where all this formalities are explained and samples are provided?

If you already dealt with this issue just copy the thread link and accept my apologies...I made a quick search and didn't find any similar thread.

Thanks in advance!

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By babysitter do you mean a nanny as a part or full time employee rather than a person who minds your child on an occasional Friday night?

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Yes, I rather mean a nanny. You are 100% right. Mean someone who would even sleep at home.

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If they are over 18, then you still need to register them as an employee and pay AHV.

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Qualified (equivalent UK NNEB) or unqualified? With what sort of work permit?

Do a search for the thread 'rules and regs around Au Pair/nanny.

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Check these threads for info, if you dont find what you need just ask:

Nanny Contract/Registration

The Au Pair/Nanny employment thread (no ads!)

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She is from Peru but has a Spanish passport, which I suppose gives her the right to obtain (together with my contract) a Permit B. Aged 45 or so. She doesn't have a special qualification.

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Would these threads help in some way ?

Paperworks for hiring housekeeper/nanny

Setting up Witholdings when you hire a nanny

How to pay a nanny

Nanny guidelines - max. hours worked?

AHV procedure ?

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Thanks a lot.

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For info and to explain my question above:

In the United Kingdom, the National Nursery Examination Board (NNEB) was founded in 1945 as the awarding body in qualifications for childminders and nursery personnel. In 1994 the NNEB and the Council for Early Years Awards (CEYA) merged to form CACHE - The Council for Awards in Children's Care and Education , with their CACHE Level 3 Diploma in Child Care and Education providing the knowledge and undertstanding of child development and education needed to work as a Nanny.

For most people in the UK, a Nanny will hold a recognized qualification as above. Their salary is about the same as a Primary School teacher in the UK. The term is used very differently is other parts of the world.

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Do people have suggestions about how to hire a nanny in Zurich?

Also, a rough salary range (per hour)

for a live out nanny would be very helpful for us.

Thanks!

CP

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Hello CP and welcome to our community. Read through this thread I merged your request with, there is a lot of practical info. If you need more, put "nanny" into the search window, upper right hand corner. And, stopping by at the intro section would be nice, too, people are more likely to offer you advice when they know who they are talking to.

Cheers, MC

one of the forum mods

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I wonder if anyone else is in the same situation as me...

You might know from other threads that my nanny doesn't want to come to CH, I even considered asking my mother in law to come and stay (luckily she declined my offer) ... the money people ask as live-in nannies is something I can't afford on my 120k salary (if I can't - where do all these people find work?) - how on earth do you go about finding affordable childcare for two kids under 3?! I am very lucky to pay my UK nanny only £1000 live-in (about CH1400) but I can't find one even for CH2000 at the moment (doing it remotely from UK)

I am surly not the only one struggling - what did other people do?

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We just pay the going rate to get decent childcare. Means a happy nanny and happy kids and a rather skint me.

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Hi there

You could consider a nanny share? The cost of child care, even unqualified, is very expensive in Switzerland. Costs are high and it will be difficult for you to find anyone who can afford to accept a job at 2000CHF per month. Another option is to find a Tagesmutter.

Good luck with your search

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I would consider anything BUT because I will have to go on business trips I need someone who lives with us...

now i kind of understand why a couple with two kids and 120k is just above poverty line! ... And I always thought UK was expensive...

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Check out aupair sites, a lot cheaper and you can find a gem, experienced and older than your usual 18yr old.

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When we moved to CH and brought our nanny from overseas we had to have a contract that included:

- gross salary of SFr. 3200 per month (our first try was $3000 and we were told that we should increase it or her visa would be denied)

- deduction for board of SFr. 1000 per month

I don't know if we were expected to pay more or less than the going rate as she was not EU.

In addition, there were a number of additional costs that we had to bear:

- AHV/IV/EO/ALV/FAK/VK (both employee and employer pay - the SVA in Zurich helped us with this part)

- BVG (Pillar 2 pension both employee and employer, we only found one fund that would accept us due to the low level of contributions)

- accident ins

- health ins

- language course (half paid by each - she chose to go to the gemeinde run classes as they were the cheapest)

Overall our nanny received about Sfr. 1800 net and we had additional costs of approx. SFr. 700 a month. (Although health ins premiums have gone up alot so it would probably be more now.)

She now has another job at the same pay and she had a few offers to choose from so I gather her rate is not unreasonable. She is not qualified other than to have many years experience as a live-in nanny and housekeeper (she's in her 40's).

We did have friends who had a "student" as their nanny. Basically she did a year of work as a junior assistant in a preschool, and then a year as their nanny, and then she went to uni (to train to be a preschool carer). She was alot cheaper (can't remember how much they paid her) but she wasn't live in.

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I read a bit through the threads about au pairs and from what I understand one of the parents must be at home or work part-time otherwise CH wouldn't allow us to have an au-pair? I found a gem in New Zealand and could argue the case that I speak only Russian to my children and our Kiwi husband/dad is home only on weekends, hence we won't speak the same language - but - I work full time. So I thought I can't have an au-pair???

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You can't have a non-EU Au-Pair since you work 100% since they require the special Au-Pair visa. If you hire an EU national I beleive you can get around this rule. But then again do you really want someone who has no experience looking after your kids when they are so young? Of course you may get lucky and be able to hire on older, experienced person on an Au-Pair salary.