Entry limitations for US citizen visitor 90 days or less

Visas, Permits, Passports and Naturalization
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Hi all

Trying to understand the “No visa required for visits of 90 days or less” on travel.state.gov https://travel.state.gov/content/tra…itzerland.html

What if the individual visits for 30 days, then goes back to the US for two months, then comes to CH for 2.5 months?

Is this an issue in practice? Is there somewhere that outlines what the government policy is on the Swiss side?

Thanks in advance

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Here is the details and calculator.

https://www.sem.admin.ch/sem/en/home…tsrechner.html

And yes failing to comply will be problematic. It is probably also worth pointing out that the burden of proof is on the tourist, not the authorities. So is a good idea to hold on to travel documents such as tickets, hotel bills etc.

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Thank you for the calculator and link, that's what I was looking for.

If we wanted to apply to get some type of extension - how would we do this? This is for a mother of spouse who is also a US citizen, B permit, to support with child duties whilst both parents at work.

This this be a question for the geminde/canton or application done at Federal level? Would the individual need to go to a Swiss embassy for a Visa?

Just trying to understand how much overhead there is to even apply and have a stay > 90 days. Thank you

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There is no extension . You will need to talk to your geminde to see if they will issue some kind of Swiss visa. But you will also need to check things like health insurance etc...

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There is no way to stay for more than 90 days as a tourist. The rule is 90 days in and then 90 days out and no option to alter that.

Even under family reunification a non-EU national cannot bring their parents here.

You’re going to have to arrange for childcare other than by your mother-in-law.

Overstaying can result in fines and even a ban on entering Switzerland for some years; said ban would also apply to the whole of the Schengen area. Do not attempt it.

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"Some" normally = 10.

Tom

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Thanks all for the responses, appreciated. Clearly not going to have her overstay.

Just want to better understand the family reunification approach. I am EU/C-Permit - is this possible request, if so, what is the process? thanks

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Send your kids to live with her in the US.

Tom

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She would need to move here permanently and you would have to financially support her. But as said non-EU nationals cannot bring their parents here so it’s not possible.

" If you come from a third country
You may bring the following family members to Switzerland:

your spouse or registered partner;
your children under the age of 18."

https://www.ch.ch/en/family-and-part…in-switzerland

It doesn’t matter that you’re EU, your spouse is not and it’s her mother you’re trying to bring over so no, not possible. It’s governed by the parent/child relationship. Non-EU national cannot bring non-EU parent to live here even if partner/spouse is an EU national. If it was your mother then it might be possible, but only if she’s financially dependent on you to start with.

" If you come from an EU/EFTA country
You may bring the following family members to Switzerland:

your spouse or registered partner;
your children and grandchildren under the age of 21 or dependent;
your dependent parents and grandparents (unless you are in education or training)."

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Just to add, you will have difficulty getting visas for other countries as well because you will need to indicate you have been barred for entering the Schengen area. And even after the ban is lifted you will be required to apply for a visa each time you wish to travel.

Work is work even if unpaid and so technically you would be employing an illegal worker. Which could have consequences for you.

And because the person is not actually a tourist, you may find insurance companies will not pay out.

This is really not a path to follow.

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I suggest that whomever should call the Swiss Embassy/Consulate nearest to them and ask them this question. These rules are not fixed in cement. Exceptions can and have been made.

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You might have to be careful, in some countries this is considered entry to work and not tourism.

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Visiting newborn grandchild is tourism, even for 4-5 months. If it was much longer, that would be different.

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Perhaps you could supply some of these examples, to help the OP argue their case?