Ethernet over coax network

Hey all,

I'm looking to pipe a data connection from my home router to the hobbyroom in my basement. Unfortunately there is no way to run ethernet cabling between the apartment and basement and there is no wifi/telecom etc.. signal down there either. However what I do have is the Coaxial cable TV wiring which goes from a 6 apartment splitter in the basement upto my apartment. Since I'm using Swisscom for TV/internet this cable is pretty redundant so I was thinking of using one of these ethernet over Coax bridges to send the data signal to the basement.

NETGEAR MCAB1001 MoCA Coax-Ethernet Adapter Kit

Does anyone have any experience of how well these work, and whether there are any other alternative options?

TIA

Hello,

I seem to remember, ( it was a long time ago) that Ethernet coax, was a 50ohm cable, where tv cable is 75ohm

so i think that it will not work,

unless the unit are designed for that cabling

T

It's not a direct answer to your question, but you could look at using devices which transmit over the domestic electric network.

http://www.homeplug.org/home/

Thanks for your response, in the blurb they do say that its designed to take advantage of exisiting Cable TV wiring within the home, however I think these units are predominantly designed for the US market (I will be ordering it from the States). Therefore if there is a difference between US cabling and the Swiss one, then it may be a No Go

I looked into this, however I am not sure if the mains electricity in my apartment will be on the same ring/network?? as the hobbyroom in the basement. If someone has a spare set lying around, I'd love to test if it works (will obviously pay postage both ways). I guess the only disadvantage over the ethernet/Coax method will be speed, and one of my applications might be streaming movies from my NAS to the hobbyroom

Um Um Ummmmmm........movies huh?

Would like to see pictures from the "hobby room"

Well....I would not be surprised if the electric socket in your basement is on your meter and thus on the same "grid" as the one in your apartment.

If this is the case, the solution with the electric network will work fine. I have several at home and they work very good.

If the basement outlet was on the the common meter like the outdoor light etc. it would be all of you who would end up paying for the electricity you are using in your " hoppy room" ...not very Swisstistic I would say.

Try the Develo - they might have a product that you can use as this .

Can you not simply replace the old 75 ohm TV cable?

50 ohm co-axial cable is not expensive, the problem for you would be fitting the BNC connectors, and you would need someone with the skill to do it, or you could simply buy ready made cables. There is a maximum cable length of about 140 meters. http://www1.conrad.ch/scripts/wgate/...=6&navi=oben_1

You might get a piece of satellite (Dish to receiver ) cable to work, it's worth a try if you have some lying around.

I am interested in getting something like that Devolo or

something like this (connect the internet in my home office to my AV equipment in the living room):

http://www.netgear.com/products/home.../XAVB1004.aspx

but not sure if it is really better than my wi-fi 'n' connection. Have you tried it from different plugs in your home and do they all have more or less the same performance?

If I could replace the coax cable then I would sooner run a length of ethernet cable in its place. The problem is the cable from the apartment to the cellar seems to be routed in a bundle from all the other appartments so trying to replace just the one strand will be a major PITA. However when I get home I will check to see if there are any markings on the cable sheath, the apartment is pretty new (2008) so it may be 50 ohm stuff.

Cheers Jrspet, are you saying they may have a loan set they can send me?

You can ask the salesperson if it is possible to return the product if it does not meet your expectations ( and use a credit card when purchasing )

I bought a Devolo start kit at first. Plug & Play and nothing to set up. Working right out of the box.

Later I bought another receiver as I needed an extra LAN outlet. Plugged it in...voila...working without a problem.

I have not checked the speed etc. but I don't experience any lagging or similar.

I have not yet tried it with my SlingBox and SlingCatcher, but I don't expect it to give any problems.

I am not a great fan of Netgear. Have been let down one time too many so now I only buy Linksys when it comes to net products.

Interesting idea that.

I was just about to buy a repeater and a switch for our top floor.

Can I plug the Develo stuff into my existing wireless router and then into the power socket or does it have to go straight into the Modem?

I have used old 14Mbps Devolo ethernet-over-power devices to connect my apartment to the cellar in a shared Zurich apartment. I believe they can hop 1-2 rings and still have a signal that is sustainable.

I now have the AVSmart200+ and get a connection of 95Mbps through my ancient apartment wiring. That's good enough.

If you get an AVSmart200+ starter kit for 120 francs or so and it does not work, I may well be expanding my network soon should you not be able to return it

The improvement in design for these models compared to the old ones I had is that you can plug this sucker into the wall and it has a power socket for pass-thru connectivity....they work less well when plugged into a 4-way extension, for example.

if you can clamp new coax + TP cable to the existing coax, you may be able to pull through the new cables using the old one.

otherwise, you could try using old network cables which still have BNC/RG58 connector instead of the RJ45.

my first network was on coax and i still have some coax nics, however, i'm not sure if i still have any t-connectors with the 50ohm terminator you'll need.

not sure I understand. The old ones work less well if plugged into the extension, but the new ones are ok? Or are you saying that in general (old and new) they work less well when plugged into an extension, but the way around this is to get a unit which has a socket for pass-thru, i.e., connect the 4-way extension to the unit instead of the other way round.

to summarise, the old one I tried in an extension and cursed when it did not work. New one goes into the wall and you plug the extension into it - a much better design. Although it does render Swiss 3-socket wallplates impossible to use with anything else as the unit blocks access to the other sockets.

My connection is like this:

CableCom provided modem/router --> Linksys Wireless Router --> Develo device.

On my Linksys router I have 4 LAN sockets so the Develo is connected to one of these and a PC and LAN printer in this specific room to two other sockets.

In a rented apartment I would NOT suggest this. If you loose it somewhere in the "unknown" you are seriously ed as the owner ofcourse want to have the thing reestablished.

I had an offer for pulling a coax three floors up on the outside of the house for CHF 1200. Cannot imaging trying to redo this would be anything less than that.