Federal popular initiative 'No 10-million-Switzerland! (Sustainability Initiative)'

Visas, Permits, Passports and Naturalization
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Hi!

It’s more of an invitation to speculate rather then to provide a concrete answer in the context of this initiative:

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The mechanism when hitting the threshold of 9,5 million interests me:

From the point at which the threshold is exceeded, provisionally admitted persons shall not be granted a residence or settlement permit, Swiss citizenship, or any other right of residence.

Articles on-line speculate that it would, for example, prevent promotion from B to C. Would it go as far as preventing promotion from C to naturalisation in your opinion?

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I suppose it depends on the definitions of those three things.

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Speculation is the right word.
According to this forecast Switzerland Population (2025) - Worldometer
the threshold will not be reached until after 2050, so we are are talking about a lot of unknowns.

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One news article I read said it’d be reached in 5 years
But the biggest unknown I guess is whether it gets through at all?

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TBH the 10 million people in CH is the optimist scenario if everything goes well.

A lot of things can break and fail before the 10 miilion happen. There is a chance that this scenario never materializes.

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News from last Monday. Usually, in every popular vote there’s a a counterproposal from the federal government. Not this time. Vote date to be defined yet.

the Council of States followed its competent commission and rejected all counter-drafts and also the SVP initiative itself. Since the National Council already came to the same conclusion in the autumn session, the initiative of the SVP is now coming to the polls without a counterproposal – possibly next summer.

I guess the environment in Switzerland will not be happy one in the months before this vote. The campaigns will probably portrait immigrants as a problem, and we’ll get told “it’s not you, it’s the other immigrants”. It would be a good idea to schedule vacations abroad during that time :slight_smile:

If this vote happens during an economic recession, this could be an explosive mix.

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I don’t know what to think about it. My only worry it’ll block me converting from C to the citizenship unless I manage to outrace the implementation of it.
But I also get why locals may want to be protectionist, so no hard feelings towards the Swiss population.

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I don’t think it will impact existing residents but would slam the door on new migrants from all countries. Of course the EU would not accept that which risks all the bilateral accords. Which may be the UDCs ultimate objective.

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I don’t think it have an impact on my residence status. For this kind of problems, I see myself as a cockroach that survives a nuclear holocaust. The main uncertainty is that the political marketing in the months leading to the vote will probably create an hostile environment to immigration.

So, I know I can make things work, the big question is WHY? Why put effort only to get a mediocre outcome?

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What’s the alternative?

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I can do remote work and have my vacations days per year on top of that. Maybe being away makes things look less bad.

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No kids etc.? =) I wish I could be doing the same. In general, if I was rich I’d be dodging Europe for the entirety of the cold and low sunshine days within the allowed minimum to keep permanent residence.