Federal popular initiative 'No 10-million-Switzerland! (Sustainability Initiative)'

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It’s more of an invitation to speculate rather then to provide a concrete answer in the context of this initiative:

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The mechanism when hitting the threshold of 9,5 million interests me:

From the point at which the threshold is exceeded, provisionally admitted persons shall not be granted a residence or settlement permit, Swiss citizenship, or any other right of residence.

Articles on-line speculate that it would, for example, prevent promotion from B to C. Would it go as far as preventing promotion from C to naturalisation in your opinion?

I suppose it depends on the definitions of those three things.

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Speculation is the right word.
According to this forecast Switzerland Population (2025) - Worldometer
the threshold will not be reached until after 2050, so we are are talking about a lot of unknowns.

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One news article I read said it’d be reached in 5 years
But the biggest unknown I guess is whether it gets through at all?

TBH the 10 million people in CH is the optimist scenario if everything goes well.

A lot of things can break and fail before the 10 miilion happen. There is a chance that this scenario never materializes.

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News from last Monday. Usually, in every popular vote there’s a a counterproposal from the federal government. Not this time. Vote date to be defined yet.

the Council of States followed its competent commission and rejected all counter-drafts and also the SVP initiative itself. Since the National Council already came to the same conclusion in the autumn session, the initiative of the SVP is now coming to the polls without a counterproposal – possibly next summer.

I guess the environment in Switzerland will not be happy one in the months before this vote. The campaigns will probably portrait immigrants as a problem, and we’ll get told “it’s not you, it’s the other immigrants”. It would be a good idea to schedule vacations abroad during that time :slight_smile:

If this vote happens during an economic recession, this could be an explosive mix.

I don’t know what to think about it. My only worry it’ll block me converting from C to the citizenship unless I manage to outrace the implementation of it.
But I also get why locals may want to be protectionist, so no hard feelings towards the Swiss population.

I don’t think it will impact existing residents but would slam the door on new migrants from all countries. Of course the EU would not accept that which risks all the bilateral accords. Which may be the UDCs ultimate objective.

I don’t think it have an impact on my residence status. For this kind of problems, I see myself as a cockroach that survives a nuclear holocaust. The main uncertainty is that the political marketing in the months leading to the vote will probably create an hostile environment to immigration.

So, I know I can make things work, the big question is WHY? Why put effort only to get a mediocre outcome?

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What’s the alternative?

I can do remote work and have my vacations days per year on top of that. Maybe being away makes things look less bad.

No kids etc.? =) I wish I could be doing the same. In general, if I was rich I’d be dodging Europe for the entirety of the cold and low sunshine days within the allowed minimum to keep permanent residence.

The social environment is calm a few weeks away from the vote, this is great :slight_smile:

Something interesting in the NZZ today. Part of that feeling of “the train is too full” and “I can’t find where to live” is due to mass tourism.

Visit the ten million Swiss in Grindelwald!

The tourism industry on Wednesday warns of the SVP’s “chaos initiative” and on Thursday announces a campaign against the chaos that mass tourism is causing.

Swiss tourism recorded a record level in 2025 with 44 million hotel nights. Most of the foreign guests come from Europe, for the growth was mainly guests from overseas. Last year, 23 percent of all bookings were made by travelers from the U.S. and Canada – 5 percent more than the year before. Switzerland Tourism was satisfied: “The positive development confirms the continued attractiveness of Switzerland.”

The industry, on the other hand, is concerned about the SVP’s 10 million Swiss initiative. On Wednesday, she sent out a media invitation titled «Tourism against Chaos.» What the tourism association means by chaos, he leaves open. He is content with the indication that 30 percent of the staff in restaurants, mountain houses and hotels comes from other European countries via free movement agreements. If the SVP’s latest immigration initiative is adopted in June, Switzerland would ultimately have to terminate the free movement agreement. This if the population growth cannot be slowed at the latest two years after reaching the legally stipulated limit.

Ahhh, so 30% of jobs are taken by foreigners because locals don’t want to. But wait a min…how much of the Swiss GDP comes from tourism?

The chaos caused by mass tourism, on the other hand, is already evident today: in the tourist trains to Interlaken, at the Schwanenplatz in Lucerne or at the Staubbachfall in Lauterbrunnen. An industry that is responsible for 3 percent of GDP brings quite a lot of people into the country - guests and employees.

Switzerland Tourism knows this. On Thursday, the association sent out another media release. A behaving campaign for tourists is presented: Dispose of your waste! Store your luggage in your luggage compartment! Follow the traffic rules! Travel with care!

The SVP’s recent immigration initiative is not without a chance. In March, a Leewas poll showed 45 percent approval. The main argument for a yes: the many people in the country. The foreign guests are not meant, but the tourists contribute with their mass business not insignificantly to the density stress.

It’s interesting that tourists and low productivity workers only generate 3 Rappen of every Franc while generating multiple externalities. It doesn’t take a lot of effort to connect the dots and realize the success of the Swiss tourism industry is creating some issues, this feeling of density stress and little money in return.

The opinion writer is right, this is a win for the SVP:

They (Switzerland Tourism) warn of tomorrow’s chaos so they can continue to cultivate the chaos they only half-heartedly combat in Lucerne or the Bernese Oberland: Dear locals, reject the 10-million-Switzerland initiative! Dear tourists, visit the 10-million-Switzerland in Grindelwald!

The Swiss People’s Party (SVP) can rejoice. The chaos created by their opponents in the tourism industry is the best advertising for their initiative.

As context, tourism is 0.8% of GDP in Luxembourg. They acknowledge it’s good for networking, economic promotion of the country, innovation and investment. Looking back at Switzerland, maybe there’s a bit a too much of a good thing.

EDIT: this is from the SRF reportage about the new recommendations to tourists visiting Switzerland. It’s true, no one comes to Aargau, so no one complains about too many tourists hahaha

I was thinking the next time we go to Switzerland, we should go see the castles in Aargau… Blame Swissminiatur…

I am curious to see the results of this vote.

I don’t blame them, you can all understand where the fear comes from, especially for a small country.


Nothing to do with fear, it’s about self-preservation. Only morons try to smear it and call it fear.

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Indeed, if one wishes to preserve the Swiss way of life, then one should vote no rather than out of fear that a yes vote will be a disaster that one could have avoided.

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How is migration helping to preserve the Swiss way of life, care to elaborate?

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The Swiss way of life since the second world war has depended on immigration and the economic success in the recent past has depended on the bilateral agreements with the EU. Recent migration issues are common all over western Europe and beyond. The law of unintended consequences means that it is wise to consider the ramifications if this initiative succeeds.

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One should really think of the ramifications if this initiative does NOT succeed: unchecked immigration, EU rules automatically becoming law in Switzerland… The end of Swiss democracy as we know it