Fiancé visa

Visas, Permits, Passports and Naturalization
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Hi everyone

I am a non EU and im preparing for marriage in switzerland during next August. My fiancé is Swiss from Dulliken /Solothurn she currently lives with her parents. Im preparing to submit our documents of fiancé visa to the swiss embassy in the next 2 weeks.

we r planning to live in Bern. We are still looking for an apartment to rent there. We would like to start the apartment rental next July.

I have few questions

Which migration office we would deel with, Solothurn or Bern?

If we got an apartment in Bern now, and the rental contract will start next july, is that enough NOW as a proof of residence? Or should we provide a rental contract for an apartment (that my fiance would already relocted in) before we got in contact with the migration office?

Thanks in advance

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Solothurn since you/she have no connection with Bern atm.

You won’t get an apartment in Bern now but only have the contract start in July. I doubt any landlord is going to sit on an empty unearning apartment for several months when they could be renting it out straightaway. The only way you could do this is find a place and start paying rent immediately.

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Thank you medea freecestealer for your response.

The point is there r some property advertisements state that the apartment is available for rental starting from specified date(may. June. July... Etc.)

Do you have any idea that is it ok with landlords to sit on rental contract from NOW stating that actual relocation is going to be after 3 or 4 (lets say in in 15-6-2019)

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Well, those will already have tenants who’ll be moving out then so yes, they may be happy to accept you as new tenants. Really going to depend on your fiancé’s financial status, etc. Whether you’d need the rental contract as proof or just a letter from the landlord/agency stating you will be tenants from that date is something you’d have to check with the cantonal migration office.

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And what about sublease, does it work?

Because we have a sublease offer from afriend of my fiancé.

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I could work. You’d need a sub-lease agreement with your friend, the place has to be big enough for the number of people living there and they need to inform their landlord/agency. Might need to check their rental agreement that it would be allowed to sub-lease; not sure if that can be forbidden in a contract or not.

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Thank you very much.

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PLEASE HELP FILLING UP VISA D APPLICATION

14. Number of travel document / Nummer des Reisedokuments

15. Date of issue / Ausstellungsdatum

21. Purpose of the stay in Switzerland / Zweck des Aufenthalts in der Schweiz

□ Employment / Erwerbstätigkeit

□ Family reunion / Familiennachzug

□ Studies - Education / Studium - Ausbildung

□ Medical reasons / Gesundheitliche Gründe

□ Other (please specify) / Sonstiges (bitte nähere Angaben)

27. In case of family reunion: Relationship with the family member in Switzerland / Im Falle eines

Familiennachzuges: Verwandtschaftsverhältnis zum Familienmitglied in der Schweiz

□ Spouse / Ehegatte □ Child / Kind □ Grandchild / Enkelkind

□ Dependent ascendant /

30. Travel expenses and costs of living during the applicant's stay are covered / Die Reisekosten und die

Lebenshaltungskosten während des Aufenthalts des Antragstellers werden getragen

□ by the applicant himself/herself / vom Antragsteller selbst

□ by a sponsor

Q1: I have dual citizinship , should i put details of both passports IN no. 14 and 15 ?

Q2: Purpose of stay: in no.21 is it enogh to state MARRIAGE ?

Q3: no. 27 is it applicable in our case

Q4: no 30 should i mention my fiancee as sponser?

thanks alot.

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Yes if you do not pay yourself for that? Probably easiest if your fiancee completes the form for you

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100% agree. She's Swiss and lives here. She should be contacting the local authorities and asking them exactly what they need in order for you to get a visa and permission to marry here.

Do be aware that the Swiss are going to ask for proof of a long-term, committed relationship. Expect to provide vacation photos, proof of trips together, proof of visiting each other regularly, etc. Also, it might look a bit weird to them that your fiancée is still living with her parents. For example - Is she working? Can she provide for both of you after you're here? You don't have to answer me but you'll need to be prepared to answer whatever questions the Swiss authorities ask.

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the strange for that is the swiss embassy here did not ask for any proof of my financial status . i know in swiss they will ask my fiancee for proof that she can support both of us

thats why im thinking to select both in the application i,e myself and my fiancee

thanh u for ur advices

we may have some difficulies about here work she is still looking for work ,does the migration there accept sponsirship from smeonelses other than my fiancee?

for example: her father for example b/c she is currently work in apart time job with him.. also i have my brother in swiss but in different canton .

do they accept this kind of sponserships

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No idea but if your fiancee cannot support you and needs to revert to other people to support you I’d imagine that is more difficult. A long standing relationship and the financials are a big part in getting the visa.

Are her parents willing to pay for you?

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Q1 On entering a country it does not matter how much nationalities you have, you pick one of them and will be treated as such. So only one nationality and the rest is of no concern.

Q2 Lets hope so for you, it depends on the whole situation.

Q3 No, you are not family yet, so family reunion is of no concern.

Q4 Only if she has enough money/income, else you need to seek somebody else who has enough money to do so and is willing to do so (Mind that such person can be held responsible if things screw up, so they need to know what they are doing)

Also you are already looking for an apartment in Bern, but how will you land a contract, you have no income here, and she only has a parttime job. You'll at least need a 2 room apartment and an income of at least 3 times the rent. (and enough money for the deposit, or find a landlord and institute who are willing to do this by loan/insurance)

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Well, it doesn't necessarily mean that they well pay for me,sponsorship that i mean is that commitment infront of the authority that things screwed up the sponsor is responsible to cover.

Really useful feedback

Thank you

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Hi everyone

To update you, i've submitted in Swiss embassy Cairo for marriage in switzerland. I have filled up 2 formulas regarding marriage preparation, the embassy employee asked me to fill up sectoion 27 of D visa application that is related to family reunification,

She said that Zivilstand will contact my fiancé once they receive the documents probably after 2 to 3 weeks

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As I see it, the best thing your fiancée could d to increase the chances that you will be granted a permit is to increase her income. As she is working only part-time, she is unlikely to be earning enough to support you both. Therefore, she should try to get more part-time jobs for the rest of the time, or one full-time job.

Here are some examples - drawn up by a well-respected organisation - of budgets for couples:

http://www.budgetberatung.ch/Budget-...08de802.0.html

Under "Budgetbeispiele" you'll see 3 examples of how incomes could be distributed to cover costs.

All in German, so you'd need to use deepl or Google translate.

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Thank you. It helps alot

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To update you..

3 weeks later (after submitting in Swiss embassy)

Zivilstand has contacted my fiance, informed her that they did receive my documents of marriage preparation, gave her an appointment to come with some documents(certificate of domicile, civil status certificate,ID or passport) and to fill up formulas of marriage preparation.

Yesterday she went there,

The Zivilstand officer got her documents and he said that they may ask for another birth certificate from the country i was born (am dual citizen)

Also explained that after they verify all documents, probably 2 to 3 weeks, Zivilstand will contact the migration tell them it is ok to process the visa application.

Do you guys think that my fiancé should get in touch with migration soon not waiting all that time?

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No, why? It takes time. And it will not go faster if your fiance starts bugging them.

It ́s a short waiting time considering you want to spend the rest of your life with your fiance?

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+1 for this 2-3 weeks sounds pretty fast to me once they have all the paperwork.