Floating a boat down a river

Hi All - my Dad is absolutely dying to float his new inflatable boat down the river. Before we let him go into the unknown, does anyone know if there are any rules around this? We see people floating on the Reus and the Limmat all the time but other times there's absolutely no one and wondering if the currents pick up some days etc and people don't go? Other than watching that he doesn't head off over a waterfall or into any rapids are there any other no-no's? Thanks!

I am curious, as I also float an inflatable canoe on weekends.

Hi Charvetti, the only paddling I've done here is on lakes. We've put in on Türlisee and Zug. Türlisee is a lovely little lake for an idle outing. Zug is quite a bit bigger and the views are tremendously good. I'm contemplating a paddle at Luzern next. But had also been researching the Ruess.

Does the boat have at least 3 separate air compartments? Is it made of rubber or plastic? If it only has 1 or 2 compartments or made of plastic it is not safe for river rafting, only for lakes.

Will he wear a cycle helmet? Is he going alone, and wearing a life jacket?

It is always best to walk along the river first, and note where the tree branches are very low: if the boat collides with these, it could result in a massive puncture. It is a good idea to plan where to get out of the boat, and where and how to carry it around the waterfall.

In Bavaria I did a lot of river rafting, and the rivers here are similar. Depending on the previous several days of weather, the rivers can be deep and turbulent. It isn't so much the drowning that might kill the unfortunate, but there are usually massive rocks in the river which create the turbulence, and the victim can be injured when thrown against these. They are not a big danger to a strong boat, as they are smooth enough and the boat will rub along them, but a weak boat might capsize.

Thanks for spoiling the fun Sbrinz!

Floating down a river is one of the greatest joys of living in Switzerland. If you're using a canoe than I would recommend the following website:

http://www.kanuland.ch/en/kanuland.html

Also consider buying the guidebooks (French and German only), for easy to follow routes:

http://www.kanuland.ch/en/guides-maps.html

Floating down river on any sort of inflatable is also fantastic (I would recommend the Intex River Run for this), especially with a few beers. In general just use common sense and follow the waterway signs. Most of all, enjoy it!

http://files.pxlpartner.ch.s3-eu-wes...0a30&CFTOKEN=0

http://www.kanuland.ch/en/canoeing-w...alisation.html

http://www.kanuland.ch/en/safety-tip...er-levels.html

More fun would be spoilt if he died.... Wearing a helmet and a life jacket aren't exactly restricting the fun...

In Munich I once went with 20 British ex-pats on the river. Never again! A canoe was half sunk in a whirlpool, the occupants disappeared, and we only found they were ok much later on. An idiot tied his canoe to his foot, as you would do in open water. He went over a waterfall with his girl friend, he was pulled under by the canoe until he could untie the rope, she was thrown clear. When he got ashore his girl friend had given him up for dead and had gone home. He knocked on the door of the first house, and they put the shutters down and didn't answer the door. In the end he left the canoe and caught the bus home, where he found the girl friend.

Oh yes, jolly good fun was had by all!

Two young women died after an accident on the River Aare at Belp, near Bern last year. Instead of steering between the pillars, through the bridge arches, the boat hit the arch support, and they were crushed against the pillar by the river and held under water by the river current and boat. Newspaper states up to a 20 ton pressure.

http://www.tagesanzeiger.ch/panorama/vermischtes/Zwei-Frauen-nach-Gummibootunfall-tot/story/27886148

http://www.tagesanzeiger.ch/leben/da...story/10559581

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Going on a river without experience can indeed be dangerous. On average about 50 people drown each year in Switzerland, most of them in rivers and lakes, predominantly young males, typically because they ignored the risks.

Even an innocent looking slow river is not without danger.

Here in Eglisau it is quite popular to float down with a ring or inflatable, or proper boat/canoe down to about the railway viadukt. In all quite refreshing and enjoyable.

Notwithstanding that, when I hear the siren, or see a rescue vehicle or ambulance go past my place I know that in all probability someone has taken too great a risk.

Here is a site with rudimentary rules in various languages:

https://www.slrg.ch/de/praevention/4...ussregeln.html

I would say

Know the signs posted indicating a danger (rapids, hydro dam etc.) and obey them.

Scout the stretch, plan multiple places to get off the river.

Keep an eye out for, and ask, other people doing the same thing.

In general, if you find yourself, or are contemplating being, alone on a river, you are probably taking too much risk.

I have paddled a fair number of rivers, including here in Switzerland.

If you assume you are at no risk whatsoever, you've overlooked something.

ftfy

You don't need to be pissed to ignore the risks, that is just one possible reason.

I sometimes wonder if you dare to get our of bed in the mornings without first donning a helmet and a cotton-wool padded onesie. Who knows what sort of peril you may find on the way to the toilet.

Tis true, but alcohol plays a role in a good number of accidents on the rivers in Switzerland. The Reuss has had it's fair share of these. I think in recent years a body was dragged out the Limmat following the Street Parade too.

The girlfriend sounds a real catch...

In North America, the stats are that at least half of all boating accidents involve alcohol. I doubt that the numbers here are significantly different. Yes, an inflatable ring seems less risky than a motorboat or sailboat, perhaps that is why so many people like to tie a few tinnies to them.

You don't need to be pissed, but it really helps.

No doubt. But there's a difference between "all" and "many" or "the majority".

I often wonder how you became a moderator. You don't know me at all, so how do you make such an insulting statement?

When I was skiing with a group of 12 Germans, I was always the fastest. When I was gliding my instructor wanted to ground me as I flew a very risky course on landing. But I will not take up base jumping, that is suicidal, however paragliding can be safe, with good flying knowledge.

But go ahead, stay up there on your horse, and keep up the EF's reputation. Some of us give advice on how to stay alive, some of us sneer.

I did this many-many times with loads of friends and we came out unscathed. Try the Linth channel first perhaps (it flows between the Walensee and Zurichsee) as it is very gentle. There is just one short section of rapids that are not particularly hairy and I've seen people swim through them too. One can just disembark and walk around them in any case.

Now it pays to be careful, but please also realize that whenever a thread like this is posted, a whole bunch people come out of the woodwork and start quoting yearly death statistics, and by the 3rd page you have a feeling that your dad is a dead man walking.

Look on google maps, check where the hairy sections are on the route and take your abilities into account. Bear in mind that you want to be comfortable too. On the Linth for example, you are going to feel like a dingbat if you take full white water rafting gear. A lifejacket is a good idea (mandatory if your dad is not a good swimmer), but a helmet is an overkill that's going to make him miserable.

Let's play a little game: spot the canoeist who left his helmet at home,

https://www.google.com/search?site=i...4fCdEJGt0jM%3A

There's quite a difference between olympic whitewater and a lazy river.

That said, an old employee of the family business had gotten two friends of his (father and son) into canoeing. He dropped them off one day for a trip down a lazy river, and went to pick them up at the agreed upon location, but they never showed up. They'd gone over a very small but dangerous dam, got sucked under, and due to the dynamics of the water flow, had no chance of getting to the surface, even if they'd been olympic swimmers. Bodies found 4 months later or so.

Have fun but be safe..

I'm reminded of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_vFsWt4mzw