[German] language courses?

Hello all. I'm new in Switzerland and need to learn German. I am hoping to find classes or schools that have small class sizes and that are twice a week or more often. I have checked out the Migros Klubschule and it will not work for me right now due to either location or class times. Any ideas or experiences people have had would be appreciated! Thanks in advance-

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If you are looking for a job, you might wish to register with your local RAV Swiss job service, which might then be able to support your job-searching efforts with a German course. RAV offers intensive courses which meet 1/2 days, Monday-Friday and would pay the cost of them.

- As a legal resident of Switzerland, you do not have to be eligible for unemployment compensation to obtain RAV support for German language courses.

The RAV office responsible for your location should be Thalwil:

http://www.awa.zh.ch/internet/volksw...v_thalwil.html

I started looking at online (skype) classes - works out to 20chf an hour, and I reckon I get more "talking time" in one hour of those classes than I did in my 3 hour, 6-person group classes

Thanks, I'll check that out!

http://hallodeutschschule.ch/en/ worked for me. Good luck

I used Swissing

http://swissing.ch/

Very friendly and professional.

Mike

Try to find a school with intensive classes. 5 times a week in 3 hour sessions

Then you will rapidly progress

A joke! 5000 CHF a week!!

I was curious and so had to check. Inflation! It's now 5690 CHF a week! (In fairness, that's a deluxe offering. Their other courses are within the range I saw when I was pricing schools.)

The German Special is a clever idea in any event.

Hi

If you can make it to Lachen SZ then I really recommend Ueli Pauli who runs small groups from his home about 4 days a week and 3 times a day. He concentrates on getting you speaking and dealing with everyday things but also introduces the reading writing as you go. His approach is less formal than the schools but he can get you to B2 level if you want.

If you would like to know more I can PM you his details.

EB Zürich teaches really well and offer very good prices. Check them out. But they are having a one month summer break soon.

I have also used EB Zurich and really like the wide range of courses including "traditional" taught classes, speaking and writing.

I have used ECAP in Zurich, S&W Training in Meersburg and Deutsch im Quartier in Basel - all very good. Migros in Basel was not so good, however.

However, like everything, it comes down to teachers and your budget.

It also largely comes to our own effort I think!

As stated above, it is indeed largely self-effort, but then again there are good schools/teachers and terrible ones. In my experience, online Skype lessons were more effective and a lot cheaper. I used lingoda - recommended by AWA itself. Superb!

AWA also sent me to an awful school near Dietlikon (near IKEA) and totally brain damaged old people in their 50s were the teachers. They had no patience nor empathy towards anyone learning a foreign language. Majority of them were from god-forsaken little cantons and spoke only German (so you could only interact/ask questions in German ). They also put undue stress on getting the "accent" right, disregarding most basic grammar. As they were only answerable to AWA (not RAV), they didn't give a rat's about your feedback nor their own quality of work. It was also more like an "integration" course, where they pr(t)each you the art of finding apartment, health insurance, how to recycle trash etc in "der Schweiz". In short, I hated every minute I spent there. I wouldn't advise AWA sponsored classroom course.

While above para is my sincere opinion, I'd also like to balance it out by saying that the "integration" course was in most cases BADLY needed. Just like the teachers, the students too didn't give rat's about learning / integrating / advancing. I just don't understand how people can live in der Schweiz for 10,15 years and seek an A1 (beginner) level German course. The A1 level is so basic that I could cruise through it in 2 weeks. Not bragging. If you can understand the advertisements on TV, newspapers, that's A1. The only other somewhat motivated chap in my class was a guy whose B permit was running out and he had to land ANY job somehow for its extension. That was his sole motive. Talk about EU-integration!

Did you really get from 0 German to A2 level within 2 weeks though, as an adult? I don't think it's that easy. I can certainly not understand all the advertisements on the newspapers and the TV yet after 3 months of living here. A1 also means you will have some proficiency in the nominativ, akkusativ, dativ, and the present, past and future tenses. Don't need to discourage newcomers by telling them they are idiots for not knowing A1 yet.

But yea there will definitely be good and bad teachers, schools and fellow students.

I think a lot depends on what your work environment is like.

For example - at my workplace, English is the business language. German, French and Italian are extremely rare. Thus, the only exposure I have to German is on the rare occasion one of the people at lunch doesn't speak English (extremely rare).

On the other hand, one of my colleagues spent 3 months in a client office where they spoke German and rarely anything else. His german improved MUCH faster that mine is.

I used to host people in London a few years ago - they would come for a month-long "immersive" course. Stay in a "british" family, and have several hours of lessons every day from the company that organised it all... After a month, they were pretty much fluent.

M.