GPS updates and [cough] safety cameras

Hi

I'm looking for new GPS. I drive all over Europe.

If I were to buy a GPS in the UK (or France, or Germany) which provided 'safety camera' updates, would it include [cough, cough] all of Europe ?

Which manufacturer provides the best service ?

Ta...

My Europe-wide TomTom, purchased outside of CH, did NOT include Swiss speed cameras. It's probably inadvisable for them to pre-load the unit with something that could get a user into trouble.

I added them as a downloadable Point of Interest set, then set the TomTom to warn me when I approach a POI of this particular type.

If you buy the TOM TOM for all of Europe, with the updates you should be fine. My Tom Tom was not bought here but I update it (I have a subscription) and the thing bleeps when there is a camera around, which is very annoying, but of course, you cannot rely on that and if you stick to the speed limit you don't need to worry.

certainly garmin, navman and mypals wont have swiss or austrian cameras on, I'd be very suprised if new tomtom's did either, also igo based systems wont have them, you may be able to download a list with the camera's on, but the warnings are disabled for countries where its illegal.

eg navman includes swiss speed cameras in its database, but wont dispaly them on the map and wont warn you about them, I assume there is a hack to get them to work, but I've not looked into it yet.

Of course there are ways round it a simple hack in igo will disable the disable

If you get a wince based system I can give you igo with the hack to enable cameras where ever you are.

imho igo based systems give by far the best speed camera warnings of any system (I have tomtom, igo, garmin, navman, mypal and clarion system, christ I'm sad)

all depends which database they are using, the official Garmin one is crap, however i have a european database that has CH in and that is very accurate and includes all the cameras i have come across

I use the speed camera database from http://uk.mypoiworld.com/

As far as I can tell it shows every camera in Switzerland, though I've noticed a few false positives.

In addition to speed camera locations they have a whole bunch of POI databases that you can download: ski stations, camp grounds, etc.

Works on TomTom & Garmin.

Thanks for the info... I'll buy something here as they're quite a bit cheaper than in the UK.

p.s. love the avatar 'lux'... the cramps are an all time fave...

where you looking in the uk????? harrods?

have a look at maplin, they where selling a load off cheap recently

Or here at Migro's electronic, they where selling navman's with 2 years free map updates and TMC for 179chf at the weekend (an offer I couldn't refuse)

It was the same m-electronics offer that prompted the original question... and only plebs shop at Harrods... a gentleman shops with Fortnum and Mason

ah well in that case I can recommend the navman, it picked up the tmc signal straight away, screen is really good even in direct sunlight, updating the maps is a bit of a ballache as you have to delete the ones on there, then download the new ones (2gb+) and even with cablecoms top speed (20mb?) it still took a few hours, never seems to get above a couple of hundred k

as the camera database from navman includes swiss cameras I assume there is a way to bypass the security, just not had time to look into it.

The poi warner seems to already be installed, so all you need is the speedcam poi file, a quick google will show you where you can find it without paying navman for it

Oh and its wince based so dumping there software and using igo or tomtom is a piece of cake

I have a TomTom, and DONT have mypoi on it as that would be totally illegal here in CH. If they catch u, its a fine and loss of the TT.

Having said that, the speed cams is one thing, make sure you get a device with traffic warnings, that helps loads, especially if you intend to drive all over the show with it.

Traffic warnings only work out of the city as city traffic is considered the norm, so not reported

As stated above, unless you download POIs for speed traps in CH to the TOMTOM from a site outside of CH you will get nothing.

However, it is "completely illegal" to even "know where a speed trap is" in CH. If they think that you have speed trap locations in your GPS they can confiscate your device and charge you at least 400chf for an administrative fee.

I bought a car with Cruise Control and use it religiously. So far I have only gotten 3 fines in the past year and a half.

I used this on many different GPSs.. http://www.scdb.info/

3 in a year and a bit? Not the best record to buy cruise control then

Yes, having the speed cams will help u get 140, down to 110 on the m-way, when the ping goes...

The problem with the ping is, when you decide to have music blasting, your talking, god forbid sms-ing, you will miss a ping or 2....ohoh, then the fines will still appear..

Its CH, dont speed! be warned, 'They will get you'...

Trapster.com on your iphone or blackberry. Always up to date and totally free.

Well, one was a red light camera. And the law as enforced in CH has nothing to do with most of the rest of the world.

And both times I got clocked, I was actually speeding by at least 10km/h. So I can't complain a whole lot.