Halal butchery in Zürich sold cheeks of pigs as veal for years

Is any type of certification required for a butcher to say that his meat is Halal?

then continue living in your bubble and better never eat a döner on the street.

Agreed, I love pork and it often. Very healthy when you buy the right cuts http://www.agricultureandfood.co.uk/...nal_facts.aspx

Wouldn't you agree that is barbaric, in this day and age?

Totally wrong to sell one product saying is it another, so I am glad he got caught.

If I buy beef, it should be beef and not horse. In Western Europe I also think that halal meat should be clearly labeled as such too- so the consumer can make a choice. Not sure that some rights are more worthy of others in this context.

If I buy beef and get horse I would be so happy! Horse is much healthier and more expensive meat than beef! So I won't complain if I get horse for the price of beef!

Not in my experience. In majority Muslim countries its tough to obtain and everyone would know if you did. Also Muslims haven't tried it so don't know what they're missing.

Your statement is ridiculous. What has modernity got to do with religious restrictions? Not eating pork is precisely as irrational as praying or festivals or prostration or any other facet of religion. If you don't like religion, fine, but thinking an aspect of it is strange because it is isn't equivalent to a religion you know better is pretty closed minded.

The Quran says you can't eat pork. It doesn't say you can't eat pork unless it's prepared in an amazing bacon butty with lashings of HP. The Quran doesn't forbid only things which you won't like anyway. That's sort of the point with any law really.

They're almost always Halal and made from mutton.

Yeah, but that is NOT the point. The point is the customer should be able to make a choice and not fooled/cheated by seller.

Trees, the point about being barbaric was not about eating pork or not, but about being beaten or killed for doing so.

30 years ago, yes, nowadays, no, except for locally raised porked raised the old way.

Modern stuff is no fattier then veal, and has an uqually mild taste.

I prefer the older style, fattier, tastier stuff.

Tom

Unless you don't like Muslims. Then it's OK.

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Züri G'schnetzlets is made with Veal.

Almost always? So not 100%! And how come Kebab meat is so much cheaper than other meat in CH?

I don't know where you've been getting your pork from or how you've cooked it but I would suggest you change.

Properly cooked decent cuts of pork are absolutely delicious. I personally prefer the old fashioned fattier sort of pork but modern consumers seem to prefer the leaner, drier less tasty (IMO) stuff. My cousins raises a few pigs for meat and it is so much tastier than most of the pork you find in the shops today.

Do you know what pig's cheek looks like? I suspect a lot of people have absolutely no idea at all. I can quite see how it could be passed off as veal under certain circumstances.

12CHF for a small kebab doesn't seem all that cheap to me.

I would have said always but this isn't knowable by any person in the world. Kebab meat is cheap because its composite meat usually mechanically reclaimed, high amounts of fat and exclusively non-prime meat. To my knowledge mutton is cheaper than pork of equal quality.

Just to be clear, intention is what is important and not the action. A Muslim who mistakenly eats pork is completely exonerated, its the seller who has committed the sin.

In the UK research published in the Independent last year. And NO, it is not OK:

The research, which was carried out by the Food Safety Authority of Ireland (FSAI) and the Health Service Executive, revealed that 7 out of 20 kebabs ordered from independent takeaways in the capital contained limited traces of lamb or none at all, despite being advertised as such on menu boards.

Six of these kebabs contained over 60pc of chicken and 30pc beef, undeclared, with only three testing positive for lamb at all (1pc-5pc).

The study tested for the presence of DNA from bovine, pig, sheep, goat, horse, chicken and turkey in ten kebabs and ten lamb dishes.

Horse, goat, pig or turkey DNA was not found in any sample.

Prof Alan Reilly, Chief Executive, FSAI, stated that while this is not a food safety issue, the fact that undeclared meats have been identified raises concerns about misleading consumers and not giving them the correct information about the food they are eating.

“When you order a lamb kebab you expect to get a lamb kebab and not a beef and chicken kebab. Incorrectly listing meat products on a menu or menu board, whether inadvertently or by design, is an unacceptable infringement of the labelling legislation," he said.

"The FSAI is committed to protecting consumers’ interests and ensuring the integrity of the Irish food supply chain. We will not hesitate to take appropriate action on food businesses that are found to be intentionally misleading consumers through incorrect labelling or display on a menu or menu board.”

That was his point.

They can also be made with pork. Use pork filet and you won't notice the difference.

Tom

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