Health food markets, ideas please. Raw vegan lifestyle

Wouldn't that make the salt, orange, again?

Of course it's a fad

Food fads are incredibly annoying. Haven't seen this one in Zurich yet, but in London, I felt like screaming every time I saw 'Artisan bread' on a menu! Grrrr.... And please stop putting lemongrass in everything. It's smells and tastes like cheap deoderant.

You are a very rude and uneducated man

You missed a full stop.

As the sea is more an more contaminated by plastics, some people are arguing that sea-salt is become a hazard...

Personally, I don't believe the products available at Alnatura are much better than any given conventionally grown item.

E.g. the organic olive oil is a blend of various oils from Tunisia.

I'd rather have a non-blended one from Italy or Greece, with oil from just one farm.

They have an Italian version, that is - again - a blend of various Italian olive oils (hopefully) organic.

And then the "organic" stuff from China...

The prodcuts available at Egli et.al. do taste better, generally. But the markup is insane. Even more so if compared to prices in Germany.

The shops are very nicely done, though, so I still buy some stuff there.

Salt is inorganic. :-)

If anyone is importing olive oil from China when we have Italy and Greece on our doorstep, their thinking and morality is wrong on so many levels.

No, not the oil.

But various seeds (sunflower e.g.) - and garlic.

Also, AFAIK, China is now one of the world largest producers of apple-juice (and apple-juice concentrate).

That said, I recently looked into the prices of stuff like "vegtrug" or "minigarden" to grow some veggies on my balcony.

I almost fainted...

You can go to the Heilsarmee Brocki by Hardbrucke station and get some decent sized pots for a few CHF, buy a sack of compost, a compost seive, a few packets of seeds and a pack of babybio. For the initial propogation stage, I reuse the plastic dishes you get ready made meals in and cut the bottoms off 2lt plastic water bottles.

7p.m. each day you water the plants. Saturday evening you add a scoop of plant feed to the watering can. Job done! You'll have fresh garlic, chillies, onions, peppers, etc from June onwards and so many courgettes that you'll have to give the excess to friends.

Said a very rude and uneducated Pilates Fan.

I actually have neither of these - I buy very few convenience stuff (and yoghurt in glass-containers).

That said, the idea itself is sound.

The worst thing is reading reviews on obi.de about the fact that a 200€ elevated flower bed comes with about 200 rivets - and the included riveting-pliers are too weak to fix all 200 of them, leading to the purchase of another pair of pliers (to the tune of 100€)...

Thank you Jack and Blueangel for the links and pointers. @Blueangel I am interested to try growing zu chin in a pot. Can we start now or its too early?

Hi Jasmine! Yes...it's too early to be planting zucchini seeds unless you have a glass house to 'bring them on'.

You're best guides can be found online and in youtube videos , but the seed gyuide is here...

http://www.mr-fothergills.co.uk/Vege...l#.VoZs4pdlTsY

I was recommended the Black Beauty variety because of it's hardiness and reliable crop. What I wasn't warned about was the stunning flowers, which you can deep fry and eat also.

The most crucial part is just before planting out. I used to put the plants outside whilst having my morning coffee before going to work, and bring them back inside as soon as I got home in the evening. If you do that for two weeks, you'll get the plant used to being outdoors. You will still loose a few seedlings at that stage, but nowhere near as many as if you don't take the time to accustomise them.

Good luck!

Growing yourself is not 'necessarily' more ecologically friendly, nor more natural. Many home gardeners use a lot of peat based compost (causing the destruction of ancient peat bogs in Eastern Europe and of course, transport) - and buy new rather than recycled plastic containers which are then dumped after the first 'failed' crop- use too much fertiliser and even pesiticides, etc.

Growing yourself is fabulous- but do it well avoiding all the above- otherwise find local growers that do it well for you. As for meat- it's not just about price and taste, but about healthy feeds, no routine antibiotics, good husbandy and as humane as poss slaughter without long transport. And yes Richdog, it costs more and for all the very good reasons stated above.

All very true, particularly with people who are new to growing their own.

I'm old school in my approach, having learned at my daddy's knee. Less is more and recycling what you have around the house saves a small fortune, but you always get people who throw money at a project where little is required. As previously posted, there are loads of good pots to be found at Brockis, cloches to cover the seedlings can be easily made from plastic water bottles, and feeding once a week is more than enough.

In England, I have a large garden and have done my share of digging in pig muck in my time (for my dad's rose garden), but have only had space for pots in the last 2 years, so adapted the methods I already knew. I strongly feel that growing your own gives you a better appreciation and understanding of what you're eating, as opposed to 'health food' shops who blind people with 'science'.

My dad said that "you can recognise a gardener because they will see a ladybird in the garden and move it to the plant they need it on."

Pots? Get a roll of rubbish disposal bags. The regular black ones, not taxed ones.

Go to your nearest Kompostanlage/Compostage to fill them with local produced compost. Put in seeds, water regularly but not too much, enjoy.

And as Odile rightfully points out: If you have to buy compost from a garden center look that it states "Torffrei", "Ohne Torf". Or that Torf is not listed as an ingredient.

Worth asking at your local Commune/Gemeinde. Our local Commune distributes the compost their make free of charge (bting your own container/s) twice a year to local residents. I make my own- always 8 huge compost bins on the go- helped along with horse, cow and poultry manure from farmer neighbours.

In the UK, our local Wivedale garden centre took back all pots and trays for recycling- but they won't here, nor in France where I buy all my plants (locally for me).... so if anyone wants pots of all sizes and trays for seedlings, I have a huge container full.

Thanks everyone for your help.

@Odile: We also make our own, what is your experience with dealing with bugs that come out of compost? They hide inside to stay warm during the winter and as soon as you take the compost to pot the plant, they all come out because it's warm inside.

@Blueangel I've never heard of accustoming plants before. Is it solely for temperature purposes? Thanks