Hello everyone, I'm new here in this forum.
I have found this forum after a long search for people in my situation.
I'm Israeli citizen that got married 2 years ago with a german citizen and we move to germany together in April 2016.
Because we are married I got the temporary residence and working permit.
We are living in Freiburg next to the Swiss border, now I got a job offer in Basel, and I really want this job and the employer said it will be really difficult to get me a G permit because i'm not a EU citizen.
What is the process in my situation? and if its possible?
somebody was in my situation?
please I need every help I can get!
If this helps I'm 29 years old with a bachlor in Criminology
Some info on the G-Permit
https://www.sem.admin.ch/sem/en/home...willigung.html
I don't see anywhere you need to be a EU citizen. It says you need to have been domiciled in a EU member state for at least 6 months.
Unfortunately, you can’t get a G permit because you don’t have a German permanent residence card. You didn’t read far enough down your link donpiedro.
“Third-country nationals will only be given a cross-border commuter G-permit, if they have a permanent residence permit in a neighboring country . They also need to have had their residence in the neighboring country’s border zone for at least six months and fulfill the labor market requirements. G-permits are usually valid for one year, and are limited to the border zone of the issuing canton. Third-country border commuters require permission to change jobs or occupations.”
https://www.sem.admin.ch/sem/en/home…willigung.html
To get any type of Swiss permit you would need to be living in Switzerland with your spouse.
Hi, first thanks for your response.
I got some info from all kind of people about this..
It's written there that I need permanent residence permit, and I will get this only in two years from now, but I'm married to a german citizen and thats mean I will get a renew automatically.
Thats why I wanted to know if someone have been in this situation or know the process
Since you are married to a German, can't you apply for German citizenship?
Still, the G permit will only be available when you have a permanent residence permit?
Settlement Permit (Germany)
The settlement permit does not have a time limit . It allows you to work in Germany.
To obtain a settlement permit, you must, as a rule, have had a residence permit for five years and also fulfil further conditions.
Anyone wishing to apply for a settlement permit must for example make his/her own living and secure the financial independence of his family members, have adequate German-language skills and not have a criminal record.
There is no process without the permanent residence card. Yes, your temporary one may be renewed automatically, but that has no bearing on it. Your German permit is still a temporary one and not a permanent.
The only way you can get a permit to work here is a) your prospective employer applies for a permit for you - but you would have to move to Switzerland permanently if the permit is granted or b) as said you and your spouse move to Switzerland. As the spouse of an EU citizen you would get a dependent’s permit which would allow you to live and work here - but of course no longer live and work in Germany.
oh...
That's a problem..
Ok.. I will check my options again...
Thanks a lot everyone you are great!
Option b) is the easiest for an employer as you being on a Swiss dependent’s permit means they don’t have to prove they can’t find a Swiss/EU national who could do the job.
https://www.sem.admin.ch/sem/en/home…zulassung.html
Of course if the marriage breaks down then your Swiss permit would be at risk as the employer would have to go through the non-EU hiring process to be able to keep you. And since you no longer lived in Germany you would have no right to live/work there either.
Ok, so as I thought I didn't get the G permit because I dont have a permanent residence permit in germany...
so the next option is to move to basel with my wife, she's a german citizen.
She have to have a job offer to move?
What's the procedure?
Do I will get a permit as her spouse?
As an EU national she doesn’t need a job, but she will need to show that she has sufficient funds to support you both if you move here.
“•If you are self-employed or not employed: you must prove that you have adequate financial resources to cover the living expenses of family members.”
https://www.ch.ch/en/family-reunification-eu-efta/
You would get a permit as her dependent which would allow an employer to hire you without going through the non-EU hiring process. You would just need to take your employment contract to the gemeinde admin office to get the work part of the permit activated so you can start work.
And if she doesn't, then you cannot take the job, even if that would provide you with sufficient income.
Tom
Really? From the ch.ch link:
“Regardless of the nationality of the family member, he/she will receive an EU/EFTA residence permit (even if the person is a third-state national). This permit will have the same period of validity as your own residence permit. Family members may take up employment but must register with the cantonal immigration and labour market authorities .”
Thanks for your responses, how much time it takes to get the working permit for me after we move to switzerland?
Yes, but, as you yourself pointed out, this is provided she has sufficient resources and or a job providing such.
If not employed or somewhat rich, forget it.
Tom
Doesn’t say anything of the sort. From the link it seems employed, self-employed or unemployed main permit holder makes no difference. Dependents will still get a residence permit and can work if they find a job. If she/they have the funds for 3-6 months job hunting then if he can find a job it should be fine.
Eliran, I suspect you’ll need to wait until you actually get the dependent’s permit as employers may want to see a copy of it. Unfortunately it will only be a 3 month L permit unless your wife has a job which is for more than a year, in which case she/you would have B permits. In any case it’s only a residence permit until you find a job and present the employment contract to the gemeinde to activate the work part. You can’t do it without an employment contract.
No you are taking it out of context. He can neither join her nor search for job based on her permit until she has been able to show that she can support them over the long term. Having savings for a limited period will not fly. Furthermore the dependence cannot switch for sometime - as in not the first couple of years.
If that’s the case then he can’t do anything until his wife has a job that pays sufficient money here. Or his potential employer is willing to go through the non-EU hiring process.