I need your collective wisdom. We are looking at a new car either Landrover Discovery Sport HSE or Jaguar F-Pace both with the 2l 180Hp diesel and typical JLR electrical gremlins! Jaguar is more sporty but Discovery is more practical or so the tests and forums say. Which would you choose and why?
More questions.
Service costs, does anyone own either and can give an example of last service cost? We may look at getting a grey import so this further adds to the cost confusion.
On grey imports, how has your experience of JLR servicing been when you have had a warranty problem/claim?
Finally thinking ahead when we sell it, do you think we will have more trouble selling the Jaguar as it is a smaller market?
I would go for a BMW X3 instead: more modern, better car, easier to sell.
I did but too small, local BMW dealer is not that good.
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So, find another one, their are plenty about and all hungry for business !
+100 from me. Great car, and the engine note is impressive in higher PS spec!
Yeah, the engine note is nearly as low as the resell value!
lol now someone needs to mention something french and you have all the most unreliable car brands in one place.
RTN - seriously I wouldn't touch the LR, F-Pace or Alfa with a barge pole, unless- someone else was paying for it, and I had a backup car.
Accept your swissness and get something german, or a landcruiser.
It is my wife's Swissness (and my big mouth!) that got me into this pickle, JLR is exotic for a Swissy!
Surely the Indians should be able to make these reliable if you poms can't?
Most of these mid-size SUV crossovers, and I'd include the German ones life the X3 and Q5, seem to me to be lacking a fundamental raison d'être. Physically quite large, but only really the interior space of a large (or not-so-large, looking at things like the Evoque) estate car, functionally giving little more than a nod towards off-road ability and driving-wise the worst of both worlds, they're basically all about image.
So if you accept that premise then just go with the image you like, otherwise, i.e. if any of load-carrying, sportiness, drive or off-road capability are more important to you than image, then explore those vehicles better suited to your actual needs.
I have had a nose around both the Discovery and F Pace and must say that I'm pretty surprised at how poor the quality of the interiors are.
The previous Disco was a real tank and had a solidity (perhaps perceived) that the new one doesn't. And that styling? (has a certain Korean quality about it)
The F Pace also looks so dated already, not helped by the fact that most of them are poorly specced.
If you must have a LR, why don't you go for a used RR Sport, but I must say that the new X3 is incredible. You can hardly tell from the outside that it's much smaller than the X5 and inside, I was really surprised that it's not much smaller than my X5, apart from the boot.
My BMW dealer often has discounts from 20-30% off showroom cars, so don't be put off by one bad dealer.
There are more Mercedes in
this survey of new cars than French ones but yes, Jaguar are up there too along with Landrover, Volvo, Volkswagen and Tesla but don't let your rather dated brand prejudices get in the way of facts...
I.e. get Switzerlanded and overpay for average quality
Drove a 450 rh from Zurich to Winterthur and back and got scared by the sidewinds in that thing at 130 KM/H.
Reminded me of how it was to ride my bicycle home having had too many beers as a student!
The Nissan Qashqai is twice in the top 10...
not really, these surveys are more about peoples perceptions, expectations and the way dealers handle the customers, I've pointed it out before that on these surveys a certain car came more or less top year in year out for quality & reliability , and a certain car came bottom, year in year out, all well and good except they where exactly the same car, made in the same factory, by the same workers, one had a honda badge, the other had a rover badge. Honda customers seemed to put up with a hell of a lot before they moaned about it, or the dealers gave them better coffee. Rover dealers where shockingly bad, arrogant toss bags, and their customers expected better from a car that was marketed as prestige.
Name a French car that competes with an F-Pace.
I don't think there is any. I was "upgraded" by a car rental company this year to a Captur and it was the worst modern car I have ever driven. from the clutch to the steering just an awful motor all around.