Summary of below post:
Ways to bring my British business partner to help me do some work that will have already gone through planning via a local architect?
Hi all, read a very informative post on the forum, and realised that my loosely put together plan of getting someone over to help me is going to be harder than I thought.
I used to do construction and developments in the UK full time. Now I still do this, but I only take care of finance and project planning at a high level which allows me to do something else in Geneva. My partner is on the ground managing the construction in the UK and that's still going on.
I am buying a house in Geneva and will be doing a lot of work to it. My intention was that at the end of the current build we are finishing up in London to have my business partner come over for a month and help me blow a wall up and replace it with windows. (Very large job with RSJ to be put in place) - local architect will get me through planning.
As he is my business partner and we have gone through thick and thin he would have happily done all of that for free, and there will naturally be a gap between selling our current project and completing on our next one so he could come and breath the fresh air of dust in my new gaff.
Now I see that this is considered work if he is coming over and is helping me for over a week, and that would be an issue. I'd be happy to hire him on a contract and pay whatever the Swiss taxman tells me to pay, but then he is a British citizen and not a EU citizen. How practical would it be for me to hire him?
Why I don't want to hire local for this: because I can do it myself with him for free and it took many years of working together to build that relation and there is no one else that is as skilled as he is.
Fitting a new kitchen and putting in two bathroom I'll do this on my own as that's "easy" and I can put my family through all the delays it will take me ; a big gapping hole in the back of the house unfortunately will need to be sorted out fast.
I already have suppliers across Europe for glass etc.. So will need to figure out how to get supplies in Switzerland, but that part seems pretty straightforward via customs. Or is it? Any extra info always appreciated. I just found a house and will complete in the next few months (contract signed at the notary). So apologies if some of the questions seem very basic above.
Thank you I had started looking at it, and I found the below:
https://www.sem.admin.ch/sem/en/home...verfahren.html
I haven't gone through all the weeds yet, but seems that the whole "seasonal" worker industry is affected by this at the moment as well. Especially for skiing, and they are a pretty strong lobby in Switzerland apparently!
I’m in the ski instructing world. It’s a bit different because a) the winter season is longer than 90 days b) instructors aren’t working as instructors in U.K. and then coming over to Switzerland for a short time to work for their U.K. company. The service agreement doesn’t apply to working for a Swiss company.
You say he’s your business partner - do you have a UK company as such?
" Cross-border service provision up to 90 days per calendar year
Based on the temporary Services Mobility Agreement between Switzerland and the UK (press release EAER), persons from the UK supplying cross-border services in Switzerland for up to 90 working days per calendar year (short-term work) can do so using the online notification procedure. This applies to workers posted by a company based in the UK regardless of their nationality, and to self-employed service providers based in the UK with UK nationality.
Third-country nationals posted to Switzerland to provide cross-border services can only use the notification procedure if they were already permanently active in the regular labour market in the UK before being posted to Switzerland, i.e. at least 12 months (with a temporary or permanent residence permit).
The notification procedure and further information can be found here:
Notification procedure"
https://www.sem.admin.ch/sem/en/home…zulassung.html
" 4. Can I continue to use the notification procedure as a service provider from the UK?
This is possible if you, as a service provider, are seconded to Switzerland by your company based in the UK for a maximum of 90 days per calendar year. This is also possible for a maximum of 90 days per calendar year if you are a self-employed service provider based in the UK and are a UK national."
https://www.sem.admin.ch/sem/en/home…ml#-1727100538
Otherwise, if that isn’t possible then I don’t think you can since you’d have to prove why you can’t find a Swiss/EU national who could do the work.
@medea Fleecestealer - we dissolved it two months ago and latest project we just each took a stake in the title. We are so small that it didn't make sense with change in stamp duty and accounting headache to keep it open.
He was not an employee of the company at the time but a shareholder. Wonder if that makes a difference. But I'll definitely look in further details through the links you sent out. Recreating a company is painless, and the work can wait another 12 months for us to have at least a project done in the new holding.
All I can do is admire the Swiss for protecting their labour market. At least all the work I'll put in my house myself I'll be able to value it at a much higher rate than the work I did for myself in the UK