Homeopathy: Placebo or Real

I wish homeopathy could cure my girls bronchitis!! She is off to the docs again today for the second dose of antibiotics (First dose not working)... HATE antibiotics, but whats a girl to do??

My favorite UK export has to be Medised! Works a charm for the rough teething nights!

Dawn i hope your little girl gets better soon. It is awful when children are ill such a worry (sorry i know this post is off topic, back to topic).

Never heard of Medised what is that please.

For the doubting Thomases on the forum, guess the only way to prove or disprove whether homeopathy works or not is to wait till you are chronically ill and conventional medicine cannot help any more and then as a last resort seek a homeopath.

The only things you really KNOW are what you experience yourself.

Have had good experiences with homeopathy but also ineffective ones.

While there are commercial centres for homeopathy that give doses upon doses , charge lots of money, mostly have no results, there are also some that practise the true homeopathic medications. I have experienced this, I had a skin condition and I had tried allopathic without any results.

Then i was given just 2 doses of homeopathic medicine after lenghtly questionnaire (true homeopathy takes into account even nature of the patient), by a doctor from Calcutta who charged next to nothing, and within a week my skin problem was solved. And in 3 years it hasnt returned back. So I am a beliver in homeopathy, if the doctor is good.

I had bronchitis a few weeks ago and it's the sickest I have been for a long time. One thing that struck me is that it seemed to take ages to show any progress that it is getting better; usually if it's something like a cold, once I start to get better progress is pretty swift but this bronchitis lingered for ages. Remember that until antibiotics came along it used to be a killer disease so obviously it's going to take a bit of time to get out of your little girl's system even with the help of the treatment.

You could take her for a day or two up into the mountains for a bit of clean, cold, fresh air (does that count as homeopathy? )- that might give her a boost but I also think it's important to get loads of sleep. Sleep and rest helped me.

Good luck and hope she bounces back soon.

www.medised.co.uk

This stuff is amazing, I only use it when I have to cos it has antihistamine in it which knocks them out but is ideal for sore teeth and throat at night, helps them sleep.

Homeopathy will not kill bacteria. Bacterial infections are nothing to fool around with (not saying you are) but I am very very very very thankful that we have antibiotics.

I fear the day when most antibiotics no longer work and there is widespread bacterial resistance. MDR tuberculosis anyone?

Totally agree but the danger is that you get doctors like the useless old git that refused to retire from our local doctor's surgery back in the UK who would prescribe antibiotics for any little sniffle or twinge. It's doctors like that who can't be bothered looking further into the symptoms which risk advancing cases of resistance to antibiotics.

Antibiotics are a miracle of modern medicine if they are used appropriately.

If this thread was deleted from the site, all search-engine archives also erased and we all carried on for 12 months without discussing it, would it still be 'here'?

Ps, Thank you, Big Pharma, you take away the pain

take homeopathy and replace with religion. Same thing would happen - many people on one side of the fence and many on the other. Heck, some sitting on it.

replace with extra terrestrial life - same effect albeit with a lot of shuffling about

The sweet analogy is a good one - is homeopathy all "in the head". Some might say yes, some might say no. Certainly I think there are natural substances that have healing effects - so there can be tangible results.

But like religion and the existence of ET - a lot of it is about belief and also about our desire to prove something exists (or does not exist).

If you cannot prove something exists and I cannot prove something does not exist, who is right?

Now where's my pack of anti-depressants?

For anybody who poo-poos natural products as cures for many ailments you should know that 45% of the pharmaceuticals on the market today are either actual natural products or derivatives of natural products. Hell, Taxol, the number one anti-cancer drug was originally isolated from the Chinese Yew tree.

That being said, that's not what homeopathy is. "Homeopathic practitioners contend that an ill person can be treated using a substance that can produce, in a healthy person, symptoms similar to those of the illness."

Aconitum can prevent some infections. However, you must catch it early - in the first 24 hours. I have stopped many a sore throat from becoming worse by taking one dose of aconitum at the first sign. There have been a couple times when it became worse (both times, it was when I developed a sinus infection -- I needed antibiotics).

On another note - I think a balance between homeopathy and conventional drugs is key. It is not good to go overboard with either one. It's good to keep an open mind, and not poo-poo either one with blanket statements -- kwim?

Well, there's a difference between bacterial-type infections and viruses. You can bolster your immune system to prevent yourself from getting fully sick. I think you might be confusing getting sick with the flu or a cold (virus) and actually getting sick by bacteria (requiring antibiotics).

I'll have to check. Just tellin' ya what our homeopath told me.

Hmmm. . . and this is why I might not trust homeopaths.

No - it was probably me misunderstanding what he said. He is a trustworthy guy. He has treated my son's pediatrician for years, as well as the family of my son's babysitter's family for almost 20 years. He has an actual (verifiable) D. Hom. degree and all that.

Note that doesn't neither prove or disprove any scientifical claims associated with homeopathy.

But it is the kind of argument a litigator would use to soften up the jury

I was just referring to his trustworthiness (by me). I thought we were done talking about the whole scientific aspect *yawn*

Yeah, science schmience. Who needs it?

Indeed, covering the scientific aspect of homeopathy is surprisingly quick...