Incandescent e14 lightbulbs

Looking for a reliable supplier of traditional filament bulbs. Can only find led (don’t work in my dimmers) or halogen which last no time at all.

Some sellers on Amazon.de, but reviews suggest they arrive broken so would ideally like a shop source in Basel area.

Thank you

Halogens last LONGER, not less!

Tom

you can visit your local Jumbo or coop bau &hobby, they should have them

If I'm not mistaken, incandescent lightbulbs are virtually unavailable in Switzerland (since the early 10's), except for oven lightbulbs.

They are not outright outlawed, but it has something to do with a minimum level of efficiency mandated by law.

Anyways, most LED lightbulbs available at Coop etc. are non-dimmable. Perhaps that's the reason why they don't work with your lamp?

Nonetheless, if you want an LED dimmable lightbulb, Coop has a few in their assortment (only those with a yellowish light). Alternatively, Migros sells a smart LED lightbulb (CHF 20.-) that is indeed dimmable and covers a large spectrum of colors and not just that yellowish light.

Thanks for the replies. I tried local bau and hobbies and they don’t sell incandescent in e14 fitting. And leds don’t dim well, often buzzing and inconsistent especially at low levels. Maybe I’ll give the Amazon.de ones a try

Switzerland banned the sale of all light bulbs of the Energy Efficiency Class F and G, which affects a few types of incandescent light bulbs. Most normal light bulbs are of Energy Efficiency Class E, and the Swiss regulation has exceptions for various kinds of special-purpose and decorative bulbs.[1][72]

In line with EU rules, Switzerland banned the import and manufacture of halogen light bulbs in September 2018.

Incandescent bulbs here

Not sure what you need the bulbs for but I understand the problem. I have 2 lamps by Eglo with touch dimmer function which use an E14 base bulb. The lamps are not that old and yet finding a bulb to work in them is a challenge. Even the bulbs suggested by Eglo can't be purchased in Switzerland.

ebay / aliexpress is the only choice.

As others said, they are banned in EU / CH.

I don't know if it is any help but when this ban first came in for EU there was an exemption for "professional use" (eg industrial inspection lights). The bulbs for this were tougher, thicker glass, and hugely more expensive but worked fine for old style dimmer switches. They were stocked in professional tool stores and builders merchants not in normal electrical shops.

Honestly can't recall if the exemption was permanent or transitional (as so many are in EU legislation). It must of course be a small niche so maybe even if still legal it may not be cost effective to manufacture. A long shot but worth a try if this is your only solution?

If you are renting, it's difficult but if you own the place, you really need a long term solution rather than try and source incredibly energy-inefficient filament bulbs.

Many online electrical shops sell dimmable LEDs but you are right - they are not too good with rheostat dimmers but the newer ones are much better.

The dimmers in my place are wearing out and I'm replacing them with push-button switches (setting them as momentary switching) and fitting an electronic dimmer behind the plate. This has the added bonus of allowing external control via a zigbee (Philips Hue) network).

I got most of my stuff from isolicht.ch

Quick update - bought some incandescent from Amazon and they seem to do the job. Time will tell how long they last, but dim to low level, nice warm light and no buzzing

Thanks, very useful.

Which behind plate dimmers do you use ? I’d be especially interested in HomeKit compatible ones

I used these ones: Sunricher Zigbee sr-zg9101sac-hp

mainly because they are available here and approved for use in Switzerland.

Make sure you use the right versions (leading or trailing edge dimming).

Yes, they are Homekit compatible - but you need a bridge (like the Philips Hue one or another).

Here's a Swiss review (in German)

If you really want a dimmer, there is another solution.

-Remove the dimmer from your installation (or keep it at max)

-install some smart globes like the one Ikea has.

You will be able to control the light intensity/temperature/color from a remote or an app (if you install the hub).

I've read that even when kept at max many people still have problems. It's best to remove them entirely.

of course, it's better, but not every one has the competency or want to modify the electric installation.

My main dining room light fitting is LED and dimmable. It works beautifully. No buzzing even at the lowest level. It guess it's retrofitting that's the issue.

yes.

They've normally got the wrong sort of dimmers for their lamp types and/or there is something mis-matched with the LED driver load.