Hello,
We have a rabbit and a dog and are moving to Basel. Whilst I've heard that Swiss landlords are pet friendly, I've also heard that they're picky. I'm worried that having a rabbit will reduce the odds of getting an apartment. The creature is fairly well behaved and doesn't eat walls or anything like that (although he does get randy around premenstrual women, which is both astonishing and disturbing). Can anyone comment on whether the rabbit will be a problem for getting a place to live?
Thanks!
The rabbit shouldn't be a problem. The dog possibly is.
Swiss law states you must keep rabbits in groups and not alone. Maybe get him a neutered girl friend?
This rule is not always adhered to- I know a police man who has got one rabbit, and has for many many years. But I agree with the sentiments re keeping animals in pairs generally. Agreed too that the dog maybe more of a problem with regards to finding an apartment, especially if it is left on its own most of the day. Lots of info here on EF about rules re dog ownership. What kind of dog have you got, there are also many rules about certain breeds, depending on the Kanton you inted to live in.
NOOOO! Seriously??
Feckitt is naughty enough as it is.
She's a mutt: looks like a medium-sized generic dog. I'm hoping to be able to get home for lunch every day to walk her.
As Sbrinz and Odile have said, under the federal Animal Welfare laws certain animals are considered 'social species' and therefore must be kept in pairs or groups. Rabbits are so designated.
An exception can be made to allow a rabbit to be kept singly when an individual has shown behavior such that the individual animal cannot safely or happily live with conspecifics. But even then it is recommended that when possible sight or sound contact with others be maintained whilst living in separate enclosures.
Additionally there are accommodation requirements to be considered. The size and type of enclosure needs to meet strict guidelines.
You can read all about the requirements for keeping rabbits here:
www.meinheimtier.ch/de/kaninchen
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Just a note to all prospective pet owners:
Questions about the legalities of keeping animals in Switzerland come up frequently. Most of the information can now be found on the Mein Heimtier website, which was put together as a 'user friendly' guide to animal welfare law by the Bvet. Links to the text of the relevant laws are given in each section.
The Mein Heimtier site should be your first stop when researching pet animal issues.
If she is a 'mutt' as long as she does not look anything like a pitt bull, you should not have any problems with restrictions, as long as she has not had tail docked or ears cut. Could still be a problem with finding a flat though- good luck and tell us how you get on.
True but this is when you get the rabbits or small rodents, not when the pets are adults. At least this is what was told to me by my vet.
Yes, the Swiss are much more strict on animal welfare than anywhere else I know. Where possible they like you to have at least two of a species - dogs, cats, rabbits, etc, for companionship when you’re not around. It’s not always possible of course, but the Swiss encourage you to consider having two when adopting or buying.
Just being a pedant here...
Whether an animal must be kept in pairs/groups or singly depends on the species. ( And even then exceptions can be made for individual animals based on behavior and temperament.) Some pet animal species are not considered 'social species' and so should only be kept singly, while others fall into the social category and thus must under law be kept in pairs or groups.
The law follows what is natural for the species.
In the case of dogs, whilst daily social contact is encouraged and socialization required (i.e., the SKN classes) there is a recognition that within the structure of Swiss society it is difficult to accommodate multiple dog ownership, and so dogs are allowed - actually encouraged - to be kept singly, with the onus on the owner to provide social contact outside the household.
Again, pet owners should first check the Mein Heimtierbedarf or Bvet websites to learn if a particular species is considered social, or not.
/end pedant mode
We brought our single rabbit to Switzerland with us when we moved here.
She was 8 at the time and it would have been much more stressful for her to have another rabbit sharing her hutch than it was to continue alone. She wasn't short of attention though and got on very well with the cat.
If your rabbit is adult and been alone all it's life you will have no issues bringing him here and keeping him as a single rabbit.
When one of our two guinea pigs died we were told that it was fine to keep the other one alone but because he was still relatively young ( 2 years old) that it would be possible to add a second one. As he was a castrated male they said a female would be the only possibility though as ours would almost certainly attack another male. ( the one who died was also castrated male but they had always been together).
Thanks, that makes sense. itt is a few years old now and has bonded with us and never had a rabbit companion, so I reckon we're safe. Dog looks mostly like a Beagle. I guess we'll find an apartment eventually. The issue will be the initial move, I suppose, but that's probably the subject of a different thread.
You might find it easier to find a place in a more rural part- a bit out of town- but if you commute you won't be able to go home at lunch-time.
Oh I agree Meloncollie. It also depends on the particular animal too. Looking at the website for the SPA in Fribourg you’ll see some cats that they advise aren’t happy to be with other cats and prefer being the only one. In which case there’s no point in them encouraging you to take a second cat.
Each animal is different, has been raised in different circumstances and that all has to be taken into consideration when they move to a new country or into a new home.
Yes, that would be better from many points of view but then Dog won't get a lunchtime walk (can't afford to spend thousands a year on a dog walker). To begin with it has to be close to work for the good of Dog.
Walk the dog in the morning or evening why does it have to be a lunch walk?
Maybe because the dog needs more than one walk a day and besides that it's not very nice for a dog to spend the whole day alone in an apartment.
Because that is a very long time for a dog to not have to pee.
A dog needs to have a supply of fresh water during the day, and the dog is supposed to drink the water. How long do you think a dog can hold its bladder?
To the OP, whether you like it or not, you will get to thousands for a dog walker if you cannot be there yourself. Keep in mind that many landlords are very reluctant to rent to someone who leaves their dog alone all day.
As for the rabbit, I have also found many landlords do not want rabbits (or guinea pigs) kept indoors.
Exactly. She's actually very good about the peeing thing: only one accident in three years. But I don't want her alone for 8 hours every day, since she'll get lonely. If work and home are nearby then it's no big deal to pop home for lunch and say hello. Probably save money that way, since I can eat home and resist the urge to buy expensive cafe food or similar.