Kita Meals

When parents expect a KITA to follow their religious dietary expectations, I question the parents sense of entitlement. It sounds as if this KITA is dealing with a high maintenance parents and have resolved the situation by only providing vegan meals.

I feel for every staff member who work in a KITA. They get low pay and have to deal with unmeetable demands.

Talk with the KITA again and express your concerns about nutrition. If you still feel uncomfortable, then change KITAs.

We only have black coffee or tea. When I was a kid, butter or margarine was involved. My aunt and my wife swear by margarine, I swear AT it!

Tom

Why are you behaving like a jerk?

Groaning every other post of the OP without posting yourself?

What is wrong with you?

@st2lemans: Again why are you a jerk? You may or may not agree to this post, but the constatnt groaning. You are just proving again and again what a horrible person you are, congrats onm that!!! But go see a specialist.

Second this.

We also experience positive discrimination of vegans/ vegis over and over again. The sense of entitlement is sometimes mind-boggling.

Slowly we start being labelled as freaks for being meat-consuming, hetero-sexual, monogamous people.

Mr. Tom's world is so extremely tiny, his whole existence is this forum and being a troll on it.

Well yes, I get it. But it seems this Kita is one of the very few, if not the only one, that offers an alternative, why not? No-one forces anyone to attend.

I do not have a religious bone in my body, no intolerances, no allergies- but are you saying we should force Muslim or Jewish children to eat pork? or vegetarians to eat meat?

Our previous house in the UK is a Nursery now, and just happens the Cook is a friend. She prepares meals for Muslim, Hindu, Vegetarian children, and 1 with severe allergy to peanuts, as well as 'normal' meals. Not easy, but she takes huge pride in it- and everyone is happy.

Never thought that the day would come when people would be upset about others wanting their kids to grow up healthy. I respect all people with dietary preferences, but i don't have to agree to that being my kids' preferences, especially if she is there from 7-6. It's funny how all the people that do it the traditional way had to accept all the other ways, yet now we are the ones being laughed at if we so much say "I respect what you want, but I don't want that for my kid".

So good luck to everyone who doesn't care. if you have kids one day and they start experiencing weak bones, bad teeth, and overall poor growth or you simply can't provide better things in life because others don't need them - this is the world you put yourself in.

No, of course not, but forcing the majority to always eat vegan is also dicriminatory, isn't it?

Showing your ignorance of a vegan diet if done properly. BTW there's plenty of protein possibilities with a vegan diet..

BTW I'm not vegan but do only indulge in meat or fish a couple of times per week. That's more than enough for a good balanced diet. Including for kids - I wouldn't want a 100% vegan diet for kids, but a handful of non-vegan meals per week is ample.

So it seems most other parents are happy with the Kita and its food offering

How many kitchens does she have?? Cross contamination is an issue.

Just the one. Cross contamination is a real issue for people with real, life threatening allergies, like my grandson with egg.

At our old house, no peanuts and nothing containing even traces, are allowed anywhere near. My friend is brilliantly organised, but this is one risk she won't take. The double garage was turned into a large kitchen.

Also, you clearly don't know much about nutrition. You think protein is all that there is to meat? Vitamin B12? How about heme iron, which is a much better source of iron and it's found in food? Have you ever had an iron infusion? Did you ever take iron pills if you are anemic? How about omega 3? Or do you think someone is gonna supplement some chia seeds to cover for lack of that? And it's not even about this, i dont care if people don't want these nutrients, that's fair enough. I couldn't care less what other parents are happy with. And i'm not forcing anyone to be happy with what i am happy with. I simply believe that if we cater to one group, we have to cater to everyone.

So find another KITA.

Or stay home and make your kid proper meals.

Simple.

Win-win!

Tom

And this is why I would never want to be involved in a KITA program. Parents become emotional, entitled and, sadly, hurtful in their demands and ability to communicate. When speaking to your KITA, please stay on a professional level or you will lose all sympathy.

I couldn't possibly comment unless I actually knew what was actually being served at the kita.

Lots of Vegan food is healthy, full of protein and fine as part of a child's total diet.

But, and it's a big one - there's vegan food and then there's vegan food.

The sort of vegan food which is healthy usually takes time and effort to prepare and to be blunt, is not the sort of thing a Swiss kita would serve.

Dhal and rice with a vegetable side dish, for example, or falafels with salad are full of protein and vitamins.

Vegan nuggets and all this new UPF on the other hand are high processed junk.

So what are the kids actually being fed with there?

anyone who has dairy for a start.

butter on toast. honey on toast (is honey vegan?)

milk with cereal. yoghurt.

now you've made me want a full english breakfast so i'm now hungry and will go to lunch early.

Exactly, that is what the OP's kids are denied. With 5 days a week in the KITA a handful of nopn-vegan meals a week is made impossible.

OP, I can understand that you're frustrated with the Kita's meal system, unless they clearly declared their vegan nutrition from the start. I have never heard of such a Kita.

Perhaps you could find out whether they are vegan by ideology and commitment, or whether vegan catering is just their convenient common denomenator given all the factors they're balancing (costs, abilities or preferences of the cook, allergies of some children, religions, etc.). If they are not ideologically opposed to having animal products on the premises, perhaps you could pack your child a small lunch-box each day. Either things that can be eaten cold, or perhaps if you and the cook developed the system (e.g. suitable packaging, etc.), she might be willing to make the compromise and warm up food that you provide.

Yes, that would be an extra task on your list, when you're already juggling being a parent and starting a new job, (and wouldn't feel fair as you'd have that small extra cost when you're already paying the Kita for their meals) but perhaps such a solution could work in the best interests of your child's overall health, not only physically/nutritionally, but also socially, given that the other children nearby attend that Kita.

Evening meals and weekends? No problem.