Hello,
I wonder if anyone can help me clarify this question, please.
I’m trying to confirm whether expertise in any Swiss language is enough to apply for a fast-track C permit.
The following article suggests (under “exceptions”) that any Swiss language is valid (although it also appears to contradict itself under the “background” section).
https://www.fragomen.com/insights/la…r-in-2020.html
It seems the fide “service” are supposed to be the experts in this domain, but (unsurprisingly) they refuse to clarify their documentation. The fact they knew what they meant when they wrote it seems to be enough.
https://fide-service.ch/en/residence-and-citizenship/
Whenever I have had similar questions elsewhere in Europe, it is usually relatively easy to find the original legal articles. However, I can never find them in Switzerland - only other people’s (often contradictory) interpretations. Perhaps someone knows where these can be found?
I found this PDF but the legal references do not seem too helpful.
https://www.eda.admin.ch/dam/countri…achweis_EN.pdf
Another related question is whether one family member can apply for a C permit even if their spouse still doesn’t meet the language requirements (and must stay on a B permit for a while).
Many thanks in advance to anyone who may be willing to take the time to answer my questions.
You can find the Federal Swiss law here directly from the source: https://www.fedlex.admin.ch/de/cc/internal-law/1
You can find cantonal and federal law here:
https://www.lexfind.ch/fe/de/search
You want to have a look into:
SR 142.20 FNIA (English version for information only, might be incorrect or wrongly translated)
SR 142.201 VZAE (the ordinance for the above, not available in English. Titled ASEO in your PDF).
Then you might want to look into the SEM Weisung which is the official interpretation of the above law:
https://www.sem.admin.ch/sem/de/home…erbereich.html
and finally you can read also nicely summed up on your cantons website (See also the linked PDF documents)
https://www.zh.ch/de/migration-integ…willigung.html
What is a fast track C Permit?
After 5 years for non EU?
OP is British and seems to speak French. As living in Zurich, needs to speak German though.
As they came before Brexit, surely they just get a normal EU C after 5 years? Language requirements still needed.
For knobs sake There is no "normal EU C" please stop with this nonsense.
Permit C is not regulated by the treaty between the EU and Switzerland. Some EU and non-EU countries get preferential treatment due to bilateral agreements. But many like Poland, Romania, Hungary, Croatia, Lithuania, do not get any and are in the same bucket as people from Ecuador, Ivory Coast, Laos, or Australia.
Bloody hell keep your knickers on. EU citizens (UK pre Brexit) generally get a C after 5 years on B, unlike Non-EU.
“ In the case of EU/EFTA nationals, the issue of settlement permits is governed by the provisions of the Foreign Nationals and Integration Act and the settlement treaties. This is because the Free Movement of Persons Agreement does not contain any provisions relating to settlement permits. If they meet the required conditions, nationals of Austria, Belgium, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Ireland, Italy, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Portugal, Spain and Sweden as well as EFTA nationals (Iceland, Liechtenstein, Norway) are granted settlement permits pursuant to settlement treaties or reciprocal agreements after five years’ regular and uninterrupted residence in Switzerland. No such treaties exist for nationals of the other EU member states.”
https://www.sem.admin.ch/sem/en/home…c_eu_efta.html
Someone from UK pre-Brexit should still fall under this.
Please don't post incorrect information.
A UK citizen has never been entitled to a C-permit after 5 years and needs to comply to the language requirement.
The information quoted is correct. But the interpretation and understanding of what was quoted could not be more wrong. It very clearly says all what I have said:
settlement permits is governed by the provisions of the Foreign Nationals and Integration Act and the settlement treaties (The bilateral treaties with individual countries I mentioned) the Free Movement of Persons Agreement does not contain any provisions relating to settlement permits. (The agreement between EU and Switzerland) Lists named country which have special agreements with Switzerland. No such treaties exist for nationals of the other EU member states.
Same rules for all UK nationals. Regardless if they have been here before or only after Brexit. Brexit didn't change anything regarding permit C. More specifically, the UK is not listed as one of the countries with a special preferential treaty. There is one, and with the May 2023 changes, the rules for UK nationals are now nearly the same as for the countries with a more preferential treaty.