Looking for an English speaking Ferrari mechanic to perform a car check

Hi all, as part of my ongoing mid-life crisis I'm contemplating purchasing a 1997 Ferrari 456. I've found one which ticks all the boxes so next step is to get the thing checked before I make a decision. The car is in the Zürich area - does anyone know somebody that I could hire for such a job? Many thanks in advance!

There is Octane126 (Ferrari / Maserati dealer / service center) in Wallisellen, maybe check with them.

Maybe try on FerrariChat.

Another possibility would be talking with Foitek in Altendorf. If they can’t help, I’m sure they could recommend someone.

Thanks eyebeebe, I'll also try on a Ferrari forum. The car is actually being sold by Foitek. I was wondering if I even needed an independent inspection if the car was coming from such a place but my worry bone said yes. Anyone have a view on this, considering the car is being sold by a reputable Ferrari dealership?

I thought Ferrari's spoke more Italian than English....

FerrariChat is probably the best English speaking one to use. I think there is probably a Swiss Ferrari forum too, but likely in German.

Foitek are certainly reputable and from what I have seen have good stock. They are also nice people to deal with whenever I‘ve been in. I haven‘t bought from them though! Coincidentally I was considering a 456 from them in 2014, but didn‘t gel with it. In my mid-30s they said I was probably a decade to young for it.

Unless you know what you‘re looking for, I wouldn‘t buy a 20+ year old Ferrari without an inspection either. Probably makes sense to speak with the place suggested by Jaceq if you can’t find an independent on the Ferrari forums. It‘s a small world though, so I don‘t know how well connected they all are.

I hope it‘s the TdF 456M you‘re looking at!

If you can afford a Ferrari, I'm sure the garage can find someone who can communicate with you.

You‘re missing several points here...

It‘s a nigh on 25 year old car that costs CHF 80k. It‘s not a cheap car, but it‘s hardly footballer territory. Kids younger than the car are spending on that hatchbacks!

Old Ferraris are known for being temperamental and repairs are expensive. The OP wants someone independent from the dealer who can either give him comfort it‘s a good one or can point out where the issues are for a point of negotiation. He also wants someone who speaks his language. Doesn‘t seem unreasonable to me. I wouldn‘t expect someone recommended by the dealer to be truly independent.

No need for the catty comment IMO.

Honestly, having read various forums, this company sounds like it has a great reputation. I'm assuming that the car will come with some kind of warranty? If the car is hiding something then it will surely come out during that time?

Anyway, either way I'm sure you will be happy! Manual Ferrari V12, should be fun!

Most people use TCS

You will indeed get into contact with Ferraristas in the Zurich area through Ferrari chat (Switzerland thread). There is also an unofficial group call Ferrari Drivers Club ( https://ferrari-drivers-club.ch/ ). Most, if not all, club members speak English. Markus is the head honcho there, and is also active on Ferrari Chat.

The only “independent” Ferrari garage is Erlen Garage, Karl Toble AG in Romanshorn (autobau). It is very popular with the Ferrari crowd and it is cheaper to get your car serviced there.

Finally Foitek Alterndorf is a totally seperate company from Foitek Urdorf. The one in Urdorf is now called B.I. COLLECTION.

.. and if the car has a good service history, drives well, and comes with a 6 to 12 month guarantee from Foitek (engine, drivetrain) then you should be ok. It is usually the electronics that fail, and an inspection by 3rd party will not find those issues anyway.

You will also need to factor in CHF 1000.- a year for service, and around CHF 5000.- every four, five years for the large service (engine out).

As someone who shares this obsession to buy the cars I lusted over as a kid, which of course are now very old, can I offer my 2c?

I would prioritise Ferrari knowledge over language...you only want to specify "pre-purchase inspection" will get a report that you can google translate and then ask for a "yes" or "no" recommendation. Translate and print out a few phrases to use in the process.

This process worked for me in a language where I even had to google "yes" and "no" before I started! Maybe I made a meal of this but good to look for bargains in places where others don't dare!

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It’s weird, the Erlengarage has been liquidated , the company no longer exists, the most recent change is only one year old. However the website is still active. http://www.erlengarage.com/

Perhaps they went bust during covid, and have reopened meanwhile? Just a guess.

Sidenote:
The Tuningworld Bodensee show in Friedrichshafen(Germany, straight across the lake) takes place May 18-23 this year. The ferry across the lake docks close by.

Hi all, I'm just posting a follow-up to share the outcome of my search and say thanks to all that posted positive and useful replies to my request.

I emailed (in my finest German) the establishments and forums recommended above with my request but mostly they didn't reply. The Swiss Ferrari forum wouldn't even let me join until I had signed up to one of their tour days - fair enough I guess, that's just their process and how they choose to vet future members.

In the end I found a someone via my local oldtimer garage who turned out to be an ex-Foitek Ferrari mechanic and did a great job for me in checking the car. We did a mix of English and German during the inspection and that was good enough to understand each other. Feel free to PM me if you ever come across this thread and need a similar service - happy to pass on the guy's details.

In case it's of interest to anyone, I also found a good value insurance company called Simpego - they were super efficient to work with and undercut all the other insurance companies I contacted by quite some margin.

Thanks again to all! I hope to take delivery of the car next week :0)

+1 for Simpego, they were half the price of anyone else for Mrs TheLess' Ioniq.

The engine doesn't come out for a major service. (Like the 550 and 575)