Marriage help

hello to all,

i want to get marryed with my non-eu girlfriend,so what i have to do?im swiss,i wanna know if she can simply come here with a visitor or tourist visa and just marry me,i have take many info that i have to send many documents.but i need to know if she can come here and marry me as a tourist .

Hi there , welcome... AFAIK , you have to announce ( before she arrives in Switzerland ) that you will be married . You will then need to submit all the relevant papers ( The authorities will tell you this ) while she is not yet in Switzerland . She could still apply for a visa for a holiday but I am quite sure it is not allowed for you guys to marry while she is on holiday .

Others in the forum are more knowledgeable on this and I wish you the best of luck .

thanks anyway,but oh the god they think u can marry a non resident citizien? how? work here is impossible for her she have nothing,so just wanna marry her people say that she can marry me on a tourist visa.pleasee help me

Since you're a native, have you considered going down to Castel San Pietro's town hall and ask the relevant questions?

If she is already living here illegally, you should be very careful if you say she is on a tourist visa & now you want to marry. If she comes from a country that needs a plane to arrive here, you will have some very awkward questions if you can not show the plane ticket she arrived on.

You will have serious problems if they think she has been living here illegally...

Anyway, the very first think I though was what Shorrick said, you are a citizen & you speak the language. Go ask. Then come back & tell us what you found out.

okk my new friens,ahah

she is in her country,now we just want marry i read here that we can marry as a tourist why not? http://switzerland.isyours.com/e/imm...itzerland.html ,

coz is impossible in other ways,how get a work with logistics qualify,she is chinese she know it,but here for work is impossible no one want her,are there other ways for marry her?ok monday i will ask my town thanks.

heyyyy,i find a solution,if i go to the town hall i say that i wanna marry her,i sign the promie of marriage,then they let her come for marriage prupouse and then we have 3 months for marry.goooooooooooooooooood<

and there is no way switzerland can stop this.ahah.i beat my governement ahah. .

The procedure mentioned is for tourists who want to marry in Switzelrand and then return to their own country.

There are circumstances in which they can refuse permission - if they think it's a marriage of convenience for example.

yes i know ,but if she come here just to marry me with the promise,we can

no need for her to come back ,she will be my wife and live here already asked

i know but they have to prove it,in a tribunal but how they can prove it if we live togheter,we love each other of course they cant prove that.is impossible they have to find that she dont live with me or she s a criminal ,or she have a bf.but our marriage is real no convenience

hey, this sounds great. wish you all the best! and maybe you let us know whether it ́s was that easy afterwards ;-).

hey, i am in the same possition. you can do it but its friggin hard!!! they tell you you must get out from the country first but you dont need to, all she needs is a place of residency if you go to the comune and show that you can suport her finacialy until you are married they will let you marry very easy - if you dont have a job - or she doesnt you are stuffed!... so get ajob that lets you show you can suport her. without a contract it wont work

its easier if you get married outside the country - they ask less questions - that is the solution we ended up going with!!!

good luck

heather

Hej man,

I have an old question. As having resident B permit, can I marry in Switzerland (having all papers), my girfriend while she is here in tzurist visa - as far as i checked in Zurich - I can. But I must be sure.

I checked on the forum and they are different answers. Thanks.

Thanks

kamil

Yep, I married my Swiss g/f whilst in Switzerland on a tourist visa. But like Heather says you need to prove that you can support her - money, residence etc. Basically they will allow it (dependent on the Canton I guess) but its not easy peasy. Still takes time and alot of organising. Don't take my word on it, I just happened to have done it.

PS - because she is a Chinese national might make it a little more difficult, as a marriage of convenience looks on the books, and entry into Switzerland from China requires alot more paperwork than from US, Australia etc.

Good luck.

Thanks,

She is from Wenezuela, so she doesn't need a visa into Switzerland.

I have a good, full time, permanent job - so I can fully support her.

So, it seesm that it should not be a problem.

Best regards

Thorgal

OK folks, confusion here.

Marriage with a Tourist visa.

Yes you can and you can not.

Zurich you can

Luzern you can

Zug you can NOT

Officially, by the books, you can not, in any canton. After marriage the "Zivilstandesamt" will make a report to the foreign police and you risk that your spouse will be deported. Thanks god we don't have monsters as police, and some or most are closing their eyes.

Officially you need to apply for "Ehebescheiningung" or "Ehetauglichkeits Zeugniss" by means you are fit to marry, i.e you're currently NOT married or there might be other hindrances. (You don't need it for same sex marriages)

This is a form you have to fill out by the "Zivilstandesamt", respective by the census office (Gemeindeverwaltung). As you live in Switzerland, you are already registered in SwissStar, the civil database. Therefore they will request all documents for you. I.e. Birth certificate, residence permit, police record etc.

And you have to sign a letter of intent, that you're willing to really marry her or him.

For your foreign spouse it is a bit different, she has to go to the Swiss Embassy from country of residence or country of origin.

There she has to file police record, birth certificate, letter of civil status, residence permit, registration of census. Copy of pasport's etc.

The same letter of intend the spouse has to sign too.

Based on this the embassy signs the "Ehetauglichkeits Zeugniss"

Then the papers are submitted from the Embassy to Bern, there the papers are screened for authentic and then submitted to the canton (state). From there to your "Einwohnerkontrolle" your census office.

If there is everything OK, they will, with authorization from Bern, add the spouse in SwissStar, she or he is now official recognised as person.

Meanwhile, the embassy works on the bride visa. This will be granted in co-operation with the canton foreign police for objections.

Aren't there any, your spouse receives the bride visa and the OK to go.

The difference between the bride visa and the tourist visa is that the tourist visa expires after 3 month and your spouse should leave Switzerland, if the residence papers are not ready yet. Whereas with the bride visa she has virtual indefinite time. But the bride visa cost real money... couple hundred CHF.

If you made the tourist visa, then the whole process of paperwork has to be done later, after the marriage and you really run in danger that you running out of time. Lucky for many, the Swiss authorities are extremely efficient organized. To enter a person in SwissStar takes usually less then 10 days. But don't count on it. You make their life harder, don't think they will love you for it!

Where I am living, this process could take up to two years, when I receive my residence permit it is usually already expired, It only works as the police is also horrible de-organized too!

Now, you can bypass the whole system and arrange a marriage in a foreign country, Denmark or the Dominican Republic as example.

It doesn't help much, then after the marriage in foreign countries you have to legalize the marriage certificate in Switzerland. So you have to translate the foreign marriage certificate to one of the official Swiss languages, to notarize and apostille it. All the documents listed above have to be submitted to the Swiss embassy of the country where you made the marriage.The Swiss embassy also will certify the authenticy marriage contract.

As you tried to cheat, the Swiss authority will not set priority to work on your case, expect a waiting time of 6 months to a year until your paperwork is legalized, and only then your spouse can legally enter the country.

But then she/he has to submit:

3 visa applications with CH address

3 pictures

3 copies of the Swiss marriage certificate

3 copies of her residence permit or registration of the census office

3 copies of the spouse passport

3 copies of his/her passport

This will be submitted to the village in Switzerland, the foreign police of the canton and to Bern. Then she will receive her Swiss family re-union visa,

The last step you can handle directly in Switzerland, let him/her arrive as tourist and deal locally, it's easier.

However, you need the legalized Swiss marriage certificate, without this paper you can not do anything.

Hope this helps

this is what i woulda thought..