More Swiss men opt for vasectomy

I never wanted kids before I was 40. At first I thought it was me, but later realised it was just I subconsciously never considered any of my until-then partners suitable as mothers of my children. Then I met someone at 40 who triggered the paternal instinct. She didn’t end up being the one, but it changed my partner search criteria until I did.

Bottom line is, this could be a big regret at an early age.

Just look at the high rate of tattoo removals to see how much young people wish to change previous commitment.

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I almost fell from my chair… Hysterectomy is the removal of the womb & ovaries (fully, or partially) How reversible is it? Well, I guess as much as castration… :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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Had my kids 15 years ago but looking at the state of the world today (e.g increasing unemployment, global instability, declining living standards, devaluation of University degrees and the detrimental rise of Ai), I’m not sure I’d be so quick to have any today given all this uncertainty.

Sure we’ve had World Wars but the post war years always signalled a boom, not this seemingly terminal decline.

You’re too much on social media and spend too much time reading the front page of newspapers …

I realize this is a little rich of me commenting on your post on social media:rofl:

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I hope I’m mistaken, but when someone of the stature of Mark Carney says the old world order is over, it’s hard to dismiss.

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I think you are wrong. The world is changing and fast. Whether or it is for the better or worse is up to us. I find it very positive that the major 20th century issue of capitalism vs socialism is being replaced by a a choice between democracy and authoritarianism. For me it is clear which side to be on and how to choose ones friends.

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18 is only the first adulthood, voting and alcohol stronger than wine. There’s a 2nd adulthood at 26YO with paying full adult health insurance, no more train or mobile abo special discounts, contributions to retirement (2nd pillar at 24 YO). Minimum age for driving a big truck is 21 YO. So, the idea of “not everything at 18” exists out there, not 100% alien.

The article does not mention at all if the whole process is covered by mandatory health insurance. IMHO, it looks like an optional procedure. Then we wonder why health costs are so damned high.

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Awesome how we manage to remain on topic … anyhow, after a quick slap on my own wrist:

I am very happy to calm you down: you are mistaken.

Unless you’re writing from Canada …? But even if so, the old world order being over and the world falling apart ain’t the same thing.

:wink:

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I never cared too much but I never wanted children. I am a godfather of 5, most of them already married with children of their own. I am too much of an egoist to be a father, the godfather thing is more of a favor you do to the parents. I think if the parents would have died I would take over, at least that was like this in the old days.

Over 8 billion people on earth, you can hardly move a car on the streets even in my small village at say 07:00 in the morning or 17:00 in the afternoon, lucky I ride a bicycle. I have a nice house with a lot of land around and used to have a great view. Now there are housing blocks all around, everywhere, my house looks like a dog house in between. Once I sell they will throw it down and build another block, just too many people.

I cannot even spend summers in Spain any longer because of too much people (joke somebody told yesterday: “What is the difference between terrorists and tourists? Terrorists have sympathizers.”).

I just think it is enough and I don’t need to add to the problem. But then it is in our brain and children bring a lot of joy. Life is hard.

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Sir, it’s “life”, but let’s leave that other forum behind us.

:hugs:

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Thanks, corrected. Always the same mistakes… live and in life?

Is he certain that they are his?

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The first three look alike, all boys and all look like him. The later three are from an Asian country from different women. He made tests because he has to pay. But then he will retire soon and Switzerland pays per kid… in many countries you may live like a king with that money (not in Switzerland).

Those retirement payments for kids result very expensive for Switzerland since Viagra; Pfizer should pay!

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Speaking of penises…
A genuine question in my quest for knowledge.

Have any of you foreskin owners ever put a clamp on the bag end, filled it with pee and slapped it around like a waterballoon?

A vasectomy is not covered by the basic health insurance as is the case for any other form of contraception.
It may be covered by supplementary insurance depending on the company and policy details.

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Probably being pedantic here, but…

  • Hysterectomy only involves the uterus and sometimes the cervix. It stops menstruation (assuming menstruation was still ongoing) and reduces hormones, but it doesn’t immediately throw a woman into hormonal chaos.
  • Salpingectomy is the removal of one or both fallopian tubes. Some studies have shown that some serious ovarian cancers actually start in the fallopian tubes.
  • Oophorectomy is the removal of one or both ovaries. That does usually result in immediate menopause if the woman isn’t already in/through it.

The above can all be done in combination or in separate operations. In order to avoid the worst hormonal symptoms, most women I know have opted for hysterectomy/salpingectomy to start and only take ovaries later if it’s really needed.

Back on topic…I think once a person reaches 18, they should be allowed to determine bodily autonomy such as sterilization. However, I think the medical community needs to fully educate younger adults on the possible permanence/irreversibility of such a choice.

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Absolutely disagree.

Not sure whether you have children yourself but eighteen is still a very young and vulnerable age to make such a possible life-changing decision.

Not pedantic, just accurate, thank you --. Yet, I think it should be stated that women do not ‘opt for’ hysterectomy / salpingectomy or Oophorectomy – these surgeries have nothing to do with birth control, but with much more serious and, in a lot of cases, life-threatening conditions.

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