Hello all,
I am moving to Bern soon and would like to get back on two wheels as soon as possible. I've ridden GS1100s, VStroms, Veraderos, and have a WR250R and KLR650 currently. I understand there are MFK costs for older bikes. Is this essentially to get an older bike off the road unless someone is really willing to pay for it? Are older bikes really cheaper in the long term? In my province in Canada, you buy an old bike, pay some mechanic to give the thumbs up, and start paying super low insurance.
I have 3 questions:
1. I am looking at dual sport bikes on the second hand market. Of these a 90s super tenere runs for ~1200-3000 Fr. Where a 2021 t7 tenere is about 11000 Fr. What are the cons in terms of government intervention on picking the 90s tenere
2. As a 27 year old with a clean driving record, what would you say is the cost range annually for a bike in BE canton. This is just for perspective in my personal budget.
3. I see a lot of posts related to importing bikes. Is importing the standard? Why would someone purchase a second hand bike in Switzerland over something in the EU and paying customs. I am thinking of purchasing a bike in Poland, keeping it with my family over the winter, then taking it to Switzerland in the spring. Is this preferable to just buying a bike in Switzerland? What are some things to keep in mind, such as hidden costs or aftermarket?
No, it’s to guarantee your safety, the safety of others sharing the road with you, and to protect the environment from inefficient older technologies that dont’ comply with current standards.
The overall cons of picking a 90s bike is that the frequency of MFK is higher. At the same time, that should cost you about 1 hour a year, and you’ll enjoy lower insurance cost, lower depreciation…all the obvious benefits of buying an old, used vehicle over a new, more expensive one. But I guess you know that already. Was that a question, or a convoluted way of calling the yearly inspection “Government intervention”?
This website (comparis.ch/motorradversicherung/default) can easily do the exact calculation for you. You can privately enter all your details, and at the end you get to choose if you want to share them with the insurance companies or not (to get a confirmed offer).
I cannot talk about importing a bike, I have never looked into it. Good luck with your move!
CHF 60 every two to four years. Not really a costs which makes a dent in the bucket.
That a Täterätä from that era is slightly power restricted compared to a European versions (28.3 kW vs. 33 kW). Reason: 1987 Switzerland introduced emission limits for motorcycles similar to Euro 1, while the rest of Europe sticked to the UNECE Regulation 40 limits. Euro 1 was only introduced 1999 - 2001.
Other bikes from the effect period are much more power restricted. Like a Goldwing 1500C which has only 47.5 kW instead of 72 kW.
I have even gone 14 years once or twice, and 10 years at least 3 times.
Insurance and road tax is cheaper on bikes 30+, even if using normal plates.
And you can use the same tax and insurance on two bikes.
I have an '81, an '85, an '86, a '92, a '98, and two '03.
Tom
So if I wanted a Goldwing, could I import a non-power restricted variant or would it need work to match Swiss expectations? If I understand your post, finding a euro pre '99 bike and importing it seems favorable to getting one built for Switzerland sale? Maybe not every bike even required a restriction
I just didn't know if there was any extra fees. I'm aware of MFK inspection and insurance but not much else.
Thank you for the link. They priced me for the new tenere at 70-100 fr annually. In Ontario I'm paying around 850 annually so big difference.
My 2000 ST2, built in '98, has 31kW (40HP) on the papers, 90 RWHP measured on the dyno!
Tom
It needs to meet the Swiss specs of the year that it was first registered, not built.
I've imported two bikes, a '85 Guzzi LMIV that I bought new in the US, and an '03 999R that I bought as a leftover from the factory, but as it had never been registered is on paper an '08! Needed a lot of special paperwork for that one, from the factory and the importer, fortunately all friends, to avoid having to meet '08 specs!
I bought and imported it in Feb. 2007, finally got it registered in Jan. '08! And that my daughter worked at the local dealer was a lot of help!
Tom