my first complaint is about a complaint made about us! We have been here for 5 days, we have complaints already
I am really annoyed though because the noise mentioned in the email I know cannot possibly have been made by us, on account of the times given!
We have been told the children are loud in particular the "rumbling" at 05:15, and also that the washing machine has been on at 23:00
Both of these are not true. The children are never up that early! They don't wake up until at least 07:00.
I can understand that I do have noisy children at times and there are some other rules I unintentionally broke (hanging towels over the balcony rail) which I shall adhere to in future.
But if there is one rule I can confidently say we have observed perfectly it's the 22:00-08:00 one!
Furthermore, we have heard "rumbles" at night and also loud voices. We seem to have been the only ones who HAVE been quiet at nighttime...
Grr, this has seriously pissed me right off!
And now you know the real reason why the previous tenants moved out.
Good luck!
Keep smiling and don't let it get you down.
Wilkommen in Schwyz.
Write back, in a polite friendly tone, saying that you understand their concerns, that you too heard the 'rumbling' but that you know your children were fast asleep at the time, nor were you doing washing after quiet hours.
As newcomers you are the automatic suspect . It's important to show that you do know and follow the rules and then push back a bit, otherwise you might find yourself the neighborhood scapegoat.
Then invite the neighbor over for coffee and cake.
Good luck!
As I always say:
Illegitimi non carborundum
Fight back, don't surrender. Let them know you're someone not to mess with.
This can be successfully achieved by posting passive-aggressive notes in public areas of your appartment block .
Yep, the new people are always the cause of anything unusual!
You really should respond emphatically in writing, with photo copies to everyone, tenants and agency.
Often neighbours prefer to "not make a fuss" but after two written complaints from the agency, and you can be thrown out. You could ask your other neighbours if they heard anything, maybe together you can better pin point the source of the noises.
Illegitimi non carborundum = "Illegitimate not Rats" (Google..???)
What yer need is "Non autem adulteri carborundum"
Are your neighbors being nice (or trying to be nice) when they approach you about it? It sounds like they are having trouble adjusting to the change -- of having new, and perhaps louder, people living above them. That I can understand, to some degree. I have one child -- a 2 1/2 year old -- and I have to admit that I'm thankful no one lives below us, because I know he makes a lot of noise (which can be obnoxious even if it is within the allowed time period).
But your neighbors need to understand that kids just naturally make noise, and there isn't much you can do about it. And if your neighbors are exaggerating things, they need to be put in check. Don't be afraid to stand your ground.
Good luck!
If I knew who it was, I'd have been knocking on their door one hour ago! My husband has emailed the landlady telling her he doesn't think they have the right people. By the tone of her email it seems to me like she is understanding and knows this person(s) to be a PITA, but she is extremely polite and friendly so I may be reading too much into it!
This move has been pre-empted! I read the house rules attachment and it says nothing to be left on communal areas, no hanging stuff on the outside of your front door etc, so a post-it on the wall would be flouting that rule, right!?
Haha. No we don't get messed with. We have dealt with horrible neighbours before.. our first flat was in Salford, we had knives pulled on us and bricks thrown at us but at least those scallies showed their faces! The person or people in question are faceless I don't know who we've got the fight with! So frustrating!
Yeah, that would be frustrating...
But I'd bet it's the people living below you. Noise in apartments usually travels downward, I think. I've never heard anything from the people below us or next to us, in any of the apartments I've lived in. But we did once live beneath a family with three kids, and there was a LOT of noise coming from up there.
So you were in one of the more upmarket parts of Salford then
Before I opened the the thread I could have guessed it was about noise.
And it may not be the last.....
This is why I never recommend apartments for families unless I know the building well and that there are other families living there.
Hmmm haha yes, Higher Broughton was that charming little village. If you ever go there dont be surprised if your car BATTERY gets stolen along with the wheels at least once a week, and no i am not exaggerating!! I was 19 and didnt care where i kept my things (which was all "home" meant back then; we were out of the time anyway!) But even so we didnt want to stay there long, and woukd not want to go back! I had a boyfriend once who had student digs in the infamous Moss Side, but i never found it to be that bad there. And i never had my car broken into threre.
Sorry back to topic!
Thanks for all the advice
Next thing on your todo list: Membership of
Mieterverband Schwyz .
Dear Neighbour,
During the times specified, my washing machine was broken and my children were with their aunt in Pakistan. Article 173 of the Swiss Criminal Code states that defamation is punishable with a custodial sentence. Any further lies from you will result in a call to the police. Have a great day.
Remember: the best defence is a good offence.
Finally, the post that matches your avatar. I can just imagine Bricktop speaking those words.
A bit light on F words tho
Bloody forum censorship is a bitch, innit?
Apparently roughly half a million of the swiss population suffers from various level of hearing impairment, how they still manage to "hear" all the noise from the neighbour baffles me. I am one of the hearing impaired ones, I sometimes wonder in the mornings if my hearing aids work as notice no difference on the quietness of the surroundings when put them on...
Having said this, as I am aware I do not always know how loud my TV is or how well people can hear the TV through the walls I have a habit of going around my neighbours and tell them this upfront and tell me if they have any issues. So should they ever make a complaint without first speaking to me at least I can call the petty for a reason. Has worked so far in three countries so either my TV is quiet or none dares to come and complain to me.
Hahaha. Small world. I still have a house in Lower Broughton (which makes Higher Broughton feel like a nunnery). One week after we moved in my ex was mugged at knifepoint and our car was broken into. Then a month later someone was beaten to death two streets away, and month after that someone was stabbed to death two streets the other way..... I miss Salford.