Nany with Social cost +-5300, Appartment cost for my little family 2500, Health insurance for the fam 700, food 700, kids clothe 200....this are some basics of costs of 9400 CHF.
Question am I stupid going to work....should I claim social money and at least be with my kids...I am sure i will have more money over than i have right now..
Another idea could be Tagesmutter. Check here http://www.tagesfamilien.ch/Default....electedLink=25 (sorry the page is only in German / French and Italian). Let me know if you need specific help with translation. A Tagesmutter takes care of several children but usually not in your home but in her home. The hours are more flexible and it's generally cheaper. But a Tagesmutter is not a qualified nanny. It is usually someone who has small children and takes on other ones or someone who has had children but they are grown up and she would like to take care of children again. In your case maybe a combination of Krippe / Hort and Tagesmutter would be ideal.
Good luck!
I realize you may be in a difficult situation but expecting to employe someone 11 hrs a day and not pay them if they are sick or pregnant is not fair.
My suggestion would be to enroll the younger in Krippe and older is in school then lunchtime hort. Then have a live in pair. The au pair oculd help 1 hr in the mornings and pick up the older kid at 14, the younger one at 16, play and give them dinner until you come home (assume this is 19 latest?) This would mean the au pair works 6 hrs/day for 5 days (30 hrs as per law) and is free during the day for language classes. You are liekly entitled to subsidies for the childcare options mentioned since you are a single parent. The au pair could help out if children are sick but she should not be expected to cover all, you will need to take time off if this happens.
Are you getting alimony?
I realize it is difficult but will get easier once your 3 YO starts kindergarten. If I were you I would really try to stay in the workforce, especially if you like your job as it is much easier versus having a few yrs gap.
K
Or your wife can stay home the afternoons and help with the kids, get an au pair do the mornings.
Good luck!
As the younger one will be in school next year presumably, it will get easier. I understand single parents get priority for most creches and after school care. In addition, subsidies are there, and most base costs on your income level. So if employing a nanny, these costs could easily exceed more than half of your pay, whereas public creche and public afterschool care, assuming it exists in your area, should be only a fraction. You might even get some additonal income help. Assuming the children's father also pays for their upkeep, otherwise you may get some social help for this as well.
5 x hours nanny services @ 10.- per hour = 50.-
Exactly the same as the auto mechanic that repairs your car: he also invoices for hours worked, and you do not organise his sickness insurance.
All the issues around holidays, sick leave, insurances, etc become the nannies problem.
She only invoices you for the services provided, nothing else.
You only pay what is on the invoice.
From your previous posts it appears you are cost-sensitive, so be aware that the costs of a nanny service for you will be HIGHER, because the nanny determines the hourly rate, which includes allowances for holidays, sick leave, insurances, etc etc etc, and you cannot manage those costs.
The nanny service does however shift the paperwork burden from you to the nanny.
NOTE:
The paperwork for an employer of house staff is only hard the first time you do it. All subsequent years are easy. You just have to keep good records, and be diligent with your record keeping.
Generating a monthly pay slip is easy (fill out a PDF form)
Generating an annual Lohnausweis is also easy (fill out a PDF)
Filing the AHV stuff is a bit more complex, but once done it is easy to repeat.
I think it would be rather hard to fill 30 hours a week. as you are home in the evening, weekends etc. kid should go to school soon so it it is really hard to define the hours really. and you pay them for the most part with room and board which is much much much less 5k a month.
5k for a nanny btw is way to much though.
Au Pairs should not be left that long in charge of children. And why would one want to anyway? Many au Pairs are very younr and with little child care experience. I would not leave my children in this situation full time and it would not be fair for the au pair either.
5k is NOT too much consider it is your cost as employer. For a full time nanny, about 42 hrs/week I would even say that it could go much higher depending on her education. On what do you base your statement that it is too high? Your wished to pay less?
:-S
We all wish we could pay less for childcare but if you wish a professional carer, and I guess most of us do, then under paying is not a good choice as you are simply not going to get quality.
K
SOME Au Pairs are quite young, youngest could be 17 yrs old but they do have some childcare experience : family, friends , Sunday church experience and most of them have Babysitting course.
IF you have a child under 2 yrs old, you wouldn't hire a 17 yrs old.
It depends what your family needs but nobody pushes you to hire a 17 years old, without experience.
FYI- MOST Au Pairs are over 17 yrs old, with childcare experience, courses, degrees, teaching experience and First Aid.
It is my belief that if an au pair is 25 YO and with degrees, then she would market herself as a nanny.... but maybe I am wrong.
In any case, au pair is only allowed to spend 15 hrs/week alone with the kids so for a full time working single parent this is not a solution or cannot be the only one, should only be thought of as complementary.
And I agree it depends on family needs but I feel sometime son the forum peopl just say "Hire an Au Pair" when in reality they mean "Hire a highly qulified nanny working 60 hrs week but pay her 1000 CHF" which is WRONG (and illegal).
You hire an au pair you get young with llittle child experience, max 30 hrs of which 15 alone.
K
They earn a small amount of money because this is the Au Pair salary.
I personally know 2 girls, qualified in the UK, one is 23 one is 26, worked in nurseries and kindergarden, they have everything that you want a Nanny to have and here they are AP because they wanted to see what is the whole experience about and in the end to see if they want to stay here or go back to UK or somewhere else.
As in my case, I was Au Pair for 2 yrs here (I had prior childcare experience, including triplets), learned German and now I am working as a Nanny.
In some cases, it is not easy to just come here and start working as a Nanny straight away (for so many different reasons!).
And yes, you are right here-"Hire an Au Pair" when in reality they mean "Hire a highly qulified nanny working 60 hrs week but pay her 1000 CHF" which is WRONG (and illegal). BUT there are girls that accept this situation and either they have the reasons or they just don't know the hidden things about the Au Pair world: salary, rules, responsibilities etc.
Anyway, let's not go OT and let's see what solution will the OP find.
In some jobs this is the norm!
Thanks
- pay rent or food.
- wash, clean or iron for the parents, only for the children. Everything is just for the children. If such things are asked and the AP agrees, the family should pay her more. But honestly this sometimes goes wrong as then the parents ask the AP to do more then they agree in the beginning and don't pay her anymore and this is a hidden agreement and not on the contract.
- shouldn't work 40hrs per week, but 30hrs.
The taxes should be paid 50/50 with the family.
An Au Pair salary is between 700chf -1000chf (it depends on the Canton).
So on short, you are just being taken advantage of.
Didn't you read the rules of being an Au Pair before getting into such thing? Or when you arrived here everything was different than it was meant to be?
When did you arrive here?
What does it say on the contract? As you pay tax, you should have a contract.
I think you should leave this family. Nobody deserves to be treated this way.