Hello everyone,
I am about to employ a Nanny to take care of my 3 year old son. As this is very new for me there are some questions I like to clarify before if offer the contract to her.
· Expected salary for a 28 year old girl with only one year experience of child care
· Working hours you can expect from a Nanny, would 11 hours a day be too much?
· Can I do a 6 month contract to be more flexible
· The Nanny would have a minimum of 4 weeks vacations but most likely 6 weeks in total...would this influence the monthly salary?
· Can I expects a Nanny to do House work when my son is in the local Krippe once a week as she would be have 4 hours free
If there is anything else I should think of, please let me know as I am new to this thing.
Many Thanks in advance
IG
This topic has been covered many times so please use the search function. I have one thing to say though - 11 hours a day?!? Really? How many hours do you work? Would you be willing to work 11 hours a day? Not once in a while but regularly. You might do that if you have a greatly paid job but as a nanny? I hope you are joking. Sorry but that seems way over the top to me. 9 hours would be more normal. Sorry but I couldn't help it, had to reply.
thank you for your honest answer but as I am a single parent I dont have much choice
A nanny should be qualified to look after your child - salary 5000chf per month or more, for a 42 hour working week. I think if you need 55 hours of childcare per week, you should look at getting a full time childcare place, or a combination of more than one care model.
If that's out of your budget, then you should speak to your local government-run childcare centre and see if you qualify for a subsidised place. Do you already work ?
I work with children in a childcare setting, and the single mum's I can think of use both full time or 3-4 days per week long-day-care, plus a very dedicated nanny or extended family member.
I recommend taking 20% more childcare than your working hours, but 11 hour days for a nanny is really stretching it - better to find a childcare that takes the children from very early in the morning (6:30 or 7am is pretty normal from what i have seen) and then get a babysitter/nanny who can pick your child up from childcare in the afternoons and bring them home and get them ready for bed.
I think a decent rate per hour is 25chf. The law in Switzerland stablish that you are entitled per year 4 weeks plus bank holidays both paid by the employer. Working more than 8 hours is against the law.
Working more than 8 hours is not against the law!
Usually between 20 - 30chf per hour is the going rate.
11 hours per day is allot. So as suggested by Swiss pea a combination of childcare providers may be best.
I don’t think you should expect the nanny to do house work but theres no harm in having a discussion about some light housework.
I though so. My employer made me sign a contract of 8 hours even though I work 10, so she wouldn't have problems with the government. Mmmm probably she didn't inform herself well.
Thank you for clarifying.
:-)
I would be more than happy to put my child on a private Krippe as they cover until 6.30 but as I have a boy going to school it makes it impossible to take that option.
obiously I am a private person and dont want to be liable paying for pregnancy.
what is the view in the forum here...i know is not political correct question but I am not a company.
Thanks once again
Are you being paid to work 10 ? And do you get a half hour unpaid break each day, and a 10-15 minute coffee break (paid) in the morning and the afternoon ?
I think a 42 hour working week (not including the 30 minute unpaid break each day), breaks down to 8 hour 40 minutes per day. Usually it's a shift length of 9 hours (7-4, 8-5, 9-6).
It's a lot more than where I come from - Australia has a legislated 37.5 hour working week, add your half hour unpaid break every day and it's the 'ole' "workin 9-5" thing...
What quality of childcare do you expect to receive from your nanny near the end of a 55hour working week?
I think Swisspea's suggestions of a bit of both is good.
6month contract is allowed, just be aware that at the end of 6months you may need to find someone new. That would not be so good for your son.
I'm a bit confused - are there two children ? How old is the older child ?
What happens when the Nanny gets sick ?
According to swiss law, there is either a 45 or 50 hour maximum work week, depending on the profession.
http://www.admin.ch/ch/f/rs/822_11/a9.html So if OP wants nanny to work 11 hours per day, then likely max 4 days per week, not 5.
Not sure why a 6-month contract would be more flexible?
In addition to salary and vacation days, you need to build in the additonal costs for mandatory social charges, insurance, etc..
25 CHFs an hour, 8 hour max, and you are legally obliged to pay her social pension (AHV), accident insurance, and the other small fees you normally see on your paycheck receipt here. Failure to do so is illegal.
agreed the normal paper work is being taken care off i.e. pension and insurances
i dont know for wish company you are working for but normal contract in many international companies here in CH are putting that overtime will not be compensated as this is part of the contract. I have like many others 42 hour week but ending up working in average 10 hours in order to come home and see my kids.
Yes they are two one in school 7 yrs and the small one 3.
already feeling bad having my kids in the hand of other people but is there any other option??? please give me the answere if you have a contructive tip for me.
many thanks
IG
I think an Aupair would be more what you are looking for.
they are cheaper, The experience is more important than the money, and they live in so the hours are more on the grey side. would run you much less than 5k a month though .... and you can give her the days off where you have a holiday.....
Au pairs are not supposed to be the main care takers of children and the regulation states a maximum of working 30 hours per week - not sure how that helps out? Unless you mean an au pair in addition to a nanny?
But when this is part of the contract the salary usually reflects this. In other words, you are paid more money than if it was a straight hourly contract with overtime.
If you hire a nanny then you are an employer, and the nanny is an employee. You will have to fulfill all your obligations as an employer.
But you could do it differently.... buy a service.
You have to choose what you want to be:
Employer, and pay the nanny a wage (and do taxes, pay insurance, etc)
Buyer of a Service: buy a nanny service from a nanny company, and pay the invoices they send you (thus relieving you of the employer burden, but costing you more at then end)
I am an Employer. I have, as an employee, my cleaning lady. She works a few hours a week. I file wages documents with the authorities, and pay the mandatory insurance (100 CHF a year), as well as contribute to her social security. All required because I am an employer.
The nanny may want to be a nanny service, and submit invoices to you. That is fine, the nanny then gets the burden running her own company.
(I did it this way for a while with a childcare person, who gave me invoices)
The employer must still pay the nanny her wages (sick leave does not mean you do not get paid), and then needs to organise alternative staff to fill the position (if needed).
The employer can decide whether to purchase sickness insurance for such cases, but this is normally very expensive for a small 1-employee situation.