Naturalisation - Same sex partners

My swiss partner and I will be leaving switzerland march/april next year and was just wondering, when abroad, and having been in a registered partnership since january 2000 (got Pacs in the Netherlands, when my partner was working there), if it's possible for myself to apply for swiss citizenship as would be the case for the spouse of a swiss citizen. I know registered partners don't qualify for facilitated naturalisation, but i assume except for that part, the time frame, 3 years in a registered partner, having lived in switzerland for a total of 5 years, or 6 years in a registered partnership with the swiss partner when applying from abroad, as is the case with spouses of swiss citizens, applies to registered partners as well, no? Most of the topics on naturalisation, only refers to spouses and not registered partners. Any feedback will be appreciated.

http://www.englishforum.ch/permits-v...rtnership.html

that thread should give you hope. You'll need to register partnership here.

You could also contact the BFM using the email address linked from this thread and ask the question:

Facilitated Naturalisation - Documents and process

If you undertake the process, good luck and feel free to contribute to that second thread. Being potentially (in forum terms) "first through the door" could give good feedback and hints for others in a similar situation.

I assume your partner speaks French? You should email the BFM in one of the local languages

Once again thank you for the info.

Already had our partnership recognised by the swiss authorities in january. Shall e-mail them in french and keep the forum updated.

Probably something else to mention here...

Same sex partners are recognised, only to a limited degree and only in some cantons.

At the federal level they aren't. Heck, it's hard enough to jump through the hoops for naturalisation when you are married to someone of the opposite sex! Switzerland also doesn't really recognise de facto relationships at most levels either.

Personally, I love to see that change. I know there are moves afoot to recognise same sex couples at the federal level, but the wheels turn incredibly slowly in this democracy. By not allowing same sex couples to marry, we force the situation effectively into a de faco partnership situation. So if they recognise this, then they also have to afford more rights to hetrosexual couples who may choose (for a long list of reasons!) not to get married.

Let's not forget that women have only had the vote for the last 30 years, and that it wasn't actually that long ago when it was illegal (in canton Zurich at least) to live together under the same roof with your boyfriend/girlfriend. Ironically, same sex partners were exempted from this, since there was no assumption of a relationship

Bottom line - I think you about a snowball's chance in hell with this one. But as Lob Rockster pointed out - if you learn anything, please share it.

When you say recognised by the authorities - which ones do you mean? Federal authorities?

Actually they are since January 1, 2006, when the federal Partnerschaftsgesetz went into effect.

Mark, I think you got it wrong, a Federal "PACS" has been approved in a referendum in 2005 (58% yes) and it started on the 1st of January this year.

Wow - how did I miss that one? I knew it was on the table since 10 years, but I didn't think it had passed. Maybe they got that one through without it having to go to a vote, and our friends at the SVP didn't force a referendum on the issue. I'm sure something like that would have failed at the polls if it went ahead.

Haven't had a chance to study the whole document, but I'm sure someone will.

The big question with this recognition of partnership stuff is the extent to which is it recognised. Getting a Swiss passport seems to be held up as a something of a holy grail by the Swiss population, so it will be really interesting to see if partnerships can be treated the same as a marriage in this case!

Nope. There was a vote and it was approved... 58% Yes .

BTW the referendum was not initiated by the SVP but by the EVP (Evangelische Volkspartei) and the EDU (Eidgenössisch-Demokratische Union), the "religious right" of Switzerland.

Ok, wrong again - twice in one day

I remember observing the vote in Zurich when this law went through on a cantonal level. If I recall it was 60%, but the political commentary at the time said it would probably fail at the federal level (the idea being that Zurich would probably be more progressive than other cantons). So it's extremely interesting that the national figure was almost the same.

I'm glad to see that the religious right don't control this country (yet).

Still one has to consider that even though this vote passed, 42% of voters also voted to deny these basic rights to same sex couples. That's not an insignificant number of voters!

Found the following , it's in german:

http://www.ejpd.admin.ch/etc/mediali...rtnerschaf.pdf

7 cantons voted against, the most opposed to it was Valais, by 58% which considering how conservative and catholic it is, ain't bad...

Sorry have been recovering from a certain snip.

The law has changed on this one and there is no difference between same sex couples and married hetrosexual couples when it comes to applying for citizenship. ie you are entitled to apply for a facilitated naturalization.

Ok, so if is the case, then surely unmarried hetrosexual couples can receive the same rights as unmarried homosexual couples with respect to naturalisation and everything else?

Can hetrosexual couples apply to have their partnerships recognised "officially?"

Yep, it's called "getting married"

The only limitations for registered same-sex partnerships are on children adoption/artificial procreation it seems.

Do anyone know that when the same sex partner apply for the naturalisation, if s/he needs to take the Swiss knowledge test and take the naturalisation course? Or, it would be like the Facilitated naturalisation (no tests and interviewed required)? Thx alot!