hey All.
i am writing asking for tips and suggestions. my neighbor above us is making me crazy. her complain us my child cries all day and she cant work, sleep etc etc.
all the more she stamps on the floor and makes me mad while i am trying to pacify a child who had a bad dream or is in pain due to teething.
i am really annoyed with her and would appreciate expert advice.
please asap
Agree.
People that cannot handle that shouldn't live in an apartment building.
Bon Jovi might help. When my kids were making a racket in the car, I put Bon Jovi on rather loud. They knew they couldn't compete with that noise so shut up.
Just say: " I hope your parents had nicer neighbours when you were a baby/child, because all babies/children cry ".
To add to the loud music suggestion - if it's quite a young child (baby), then 'white noise' can help (thats when a radio tuner is between stations and just makes a hissing noise).
I'd say the "all day" bit being the key here - does the baby actually cry all day? or does the woman complain it does when it doesn't?
While away last week staying in an apartment we suffered the annoyance of having children in the apartment above us doing impressions of baby elephants.
You'd have boom boom boom boom for 20mins as they ran around chasing ghosts - then a bump - following by a ow you hit/pushed me - followed naturally by blaarggh blaarggh blaarggh - finally followed by 10mins of peach and quiet while one child was comforted and the other admonished.
And then repeat.
You are not making the noise. The baby is making the noise, and the baby is not responsible for its actions.
By contrast, the neighbour is responsible for her actions. If she deliberately stamps on the floor, then this is antisocial behaviour and would be grounds for a formal complaint.
However, it would probably best to ignore her stamping if you can. Firstly in the interests of good Swiss-style neighbourly relations, and secondly because if she thinks you're not bothered by it, she may stop anyway.
If she complains about it in person - take a deep breath, smile, and tell her, "wir waren alle mal so." (All of us were babies once)
If she carries on complaining after that, repeat as necessary. "Sie ist ein Baby. Sie weint, wenn ihr nicht wohl ist. Wir waren alle mal so."
(or if your baby is a boy: "Er ist ein Baby. Er weint, wenn ihm nicht wohl ist. Wir waren" etc.)
It's great when people realize this without being told but it sounds like your neighbor may need a reminder. Babies do cry sometimes, because they are babies and that's what they do.
The floor-stomping is harder to deal with. Your baby's cry is louder and more disturbing to you than it could ever be for her so I am really not sure why she feels the need to alert you by stamping on the floor - does she think you somehow haven't noticed?? Grr. You have my sympathy. Really the only thing you can do in such moments is ignore it and focus on helping your baby.
How about something along the lines "Es tut mir leid, ich kann verstehen dass Sie sich gestört fühlen. Aber es ist ein Baby, es weint wenn es sich nicht wohl fühlt etc" (I'm sorry, I do understand that you feel disturbed. But it is a baby etc.)
In my opinion you will achieve more if you show that you actually care about your neighbors.
I would point out that her stamping on the floor is counterproductive because it stops the child calming and therefore makes her/him cry longer and louder.
The neighbour needs to understand that she cannot complain about noise made by babies.
I would write her a nice pleasant letter asking her to be reasonable, that you treat your baby well, but it still complains loudly. Perhaps ask her to visit the Gemeinde / Commune and complain about the noise there, where you are sure she would receive some good advice on what to do next.
Ask her what she would do.
If she can't make a decent suggestion then maybe she'll realise it's not as simple as an on-off switch and learn some empathy.
Or go for a walk with the pram/buggy - we found that was the only way to survive our somewhat challenging first baby, which also take the noise away.
Similarly passengers who roll their eyes or huff and puff when a baby cries should travel by private jet. I actually said as much to some stupid lady who was giving me evil stares as I was desperately trying to console my kid
I find it ironic that you complain about your neighbor above you stomping his feet (essentially, making noise) after he got angered by your childs noise. Mind you, I'm not judging, it's merely an observation.
Contrary to what many here say, it's far from clear cut, and there's no such thing as "it's the law, live with it" in such cases. Telling your neighbor to put up with the troubles probably is the worst possible (in-)action.
Dialogue is key, perhaps some middle ground can be found. Did you try?
Personally, I find this argument meaningless and irritating.
I was a baby once, agreed. I was a child once, agreed. And I probably cried and ran around screaming and jumping and talking and laughing loudly non-stop... because that's what children do. They are what they are.
But it is parents who control to whom/what/where their children are exposed. They don't have the right to impose their children on anyone, anywhere, without consequence.
That said, I think the OP's neighbour is in the wrong. But the correct rebuttal to any complaints is: "Babies cry. It is an unintentional, human noise (as opposed to foot stamping). There is a limit to how much it can be controlled. If you have a problem with the noise, it is an issue with the poor construction of the building, not with me. Please take the matter up with the building owner."
Are you sure that showing zero understanding for your neighbors complaints will lead to a happy and pleasant living situation?
Living in an apartment building requires tolerance and respect, just saying "it's your problem, f*** off" most likely will not help to cool down a heated argument.
Yes, you are probably right. But "we were all babies once" is, I think, a much worse way to say "f*** off, its your problem not mine" and also fails to address the real cause of the problem.
What can a person reasonably do in this situation?
I suppose it it were me, I would make the argument I stated above. But I would also attempt to sound-proof the baby's room by lining the walls and ceiling with high density foam. And I would look to move to an apartment with decent construction so I could live in peace without being paranoid that I was pissing off my neighbours.
This is a wind-up, surely?