New BBC Radio restrictions

From now there are new restrictions on BBC radio stations abroad.

BBC Sounds is being replaced by BBC.com and the only LIVE stations are the World Service and BBC Radio 4.
What is more annoying though is that on those stations, playback is being limited so you may not be able listen to something you missed.

BBC Sounds still currently works on desktop and as a mobile app but is no longer available to download as an app.
BBC.com is the new mobile app but with the restrictions I mentioned earlier.

What people should not do (for the moment), is replace the BBC Sounds app with the BBC.com app.

I’m a life-long BBC radio 4 and world service listener and would gladly pay for this service. These aren’t music channels so there isn’t the problem with Music royalty payments.

The BBC is short of money but having a subscription service would boost their income.

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They already do - it’s called the licence fee.

The licence fee is only for people in the UK.

The licence fee used to only cover the TV transmitting part of their service (the radio part was free) - which is why you couldn’t use it abroad as the BBC also has a significant income in syndicating its TV output to other countries (and now also some streaming services)

You can not pay a licence fee and listen to UK radio abroad.

The BBC is also loosing licence payers as many are chosing to watch only streaming services like Netflix/Prime.

The World service is now funded partially by government, some of the licence fee and advertising.

The BBC already cut various internet radio services a year ago. I was able to get the Sounds App to replace Radio 4 on my phone and through my Bluetooth speaker.
I guess a VPN will still get all services - I can‘t survive without Sound of the Sixties every Saturday morning.
It‘s sad how travel and media are becoming more and more restricted. I wouldn‘t be surprised if BBC TV is restricted before too long….

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Well, last heard TV as we know it will disappear in a few years anyway; it’ll all be streaming stuff.

There was (is) a nice app to list them all: TuneIn. However since quite a few months it forbids me to listen many European stations in Switzerland. I can still listen them from the web.

I do use TuneIn - especially with Alexa but with the desktop version, you can’t go back over the schedules and see what you missed so you can listen to anything of interest.

BBC Radio 4 has some of the best international news coverage - there was an hour long feature on the Romanian Election last week including interviewing people in the street, for example.

The Political comedy is fantastic too.

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Point of order - the radio was not free, it was simply covered by the TV licence. Up until 1971 there was a separate radio licence, but by that time it was assumed that pretty much anyone with a radio would also have a TV. Not everybody was happy about the change, and in practice the requirement, if you didn’t have a TV/licence, was dropped, i.e. it was not enforced.

This is incorrect. It’s not a question of not bothering or non-enforcement.
It’s not required if you just listen to the radio.

I used to have letters from licencing every month in the UK and home visits too because I didn’t have a licence.

Yesterday the BBC cut access to their Sounds App for all outside the UK. Radio 4 live, without rewind, is still available on the BBC App.

Other than concerns about copyright, this seems a very retrograde step and the BBC will be losing thousands of listeners worldwide…

You can still listen to radio 4 programmes on their BBC Sounds - Music. Radio. Podcasts website - both current and ones in the past.

They have locked various programmes though which I used to enjoy. I suspect these are programmes which they can sell abroad.

I listen live on an Echo Dot so that’s not a problem.
Some programmes are also available as podcasts through Spotify etc.

Why they can’t charge a subscription for overseas users I don’t know. Everyone else seems to manage it.

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Yes, I don’t understand it either. I get all the UK TV channels through my Swisscom subscription, but only BBC world service in the list of Radio stations.

Doesn’t bother me so much as I’ve never been a fan of radio except for music, and there I am well enough served, but the one I would like would be the Sport LIve one that has Formula1 commentaries, so I could then watch them live on RTS with the English radio commentary. Not that I can’t understand the French commentary, but it’s just not the same somehow.

Use a VPN. You can then continue to use BBC Sounds. A quick search using the search engine of your choice will bring up 3 VPN providers which are recommended for listening to or watching as if you are located in a specific country. Just set the VPN to an IP address in the UK. Works extremely well and means that I can access the radio and TV I want to access when I want.

I read that the BBC is tightening up users coming from VPNs which might affect/interrupt your access.

On the other hand I found “TuneIn”, which works quite well for streaming all BBC Radio.

For podcasts, Podbean seems to be the closest app for picking up all the usual BBC Sounds programmes/podcasts.

Depends on the VPN. I am now using my 3rd provider after the first 2 stopped working. They seem to be able to change the available IP addresses regularly, so it’s not been a problem for well over 2 years. The BBC plays whack-a-mole certainly, but some moles are nimble.
For UK TV recordings Zattoo is a good option.
I like Downcast as a podcast app for widely available BBC and other podcasts

Fortunately I can (still) receive BBC4 and 4 Extra on my old IPad which I practically only use for that purpose.
BBC has also shrunk the footprint of the satellite coverage of Astra at 28.2E, and at the moment I can’t pick up 4 Extra Radio. BBC News HD (TV) is very weak and breaks up. (I need to get our dish motor reattached so I can perhaps tweak the position). IPTV providers do not offer radio channels.
It’s silly really - BBC News is known all over the world for its quality and limiting the area in which it can be picked up is defeating the object of BBC policy.
AND I bet a lot of ex-pats would be happy to pay the licence fee.

BBC Radio 4 and BBC World service are still available Live from the new BBC app and from Spotify and other providers so news is still available.
You can also listen to some programming selectively using Spotify.

The app is terrible. BBC sounds was so much better.

I think their plan is to make money from syndication and advertising.