New house inspector

Hello,

Apologies if this has already been discussed in a previous thread.

We have finally found a house that we want to buy and we are looking for an architect or someone that can inspect the house and give us his feedback on the building.

Any recommendations will be highly appreciated. The house is located in the Basel area

Thanks!

Hi!

Have you found someone to help you? We have found a house right now and are looking for someone ...

Maybe ask the homeowners' association:

http://www.hev-zuerich.ch/dienstleis...leistungen.htm

Also ask your bank to recommend someone - many will already have a list of architects who do this. That's how we found our the architect who did our inspection. (Albeit he turned out to be pretty useless...)

I know this is an old thread but I am wondering if anyone has experience with a house inspection, as a buyer or seller.

The potential buyer for our property wants to organize an inspection by an engineer.

Our house was built in 2009. The builder offers a 30 year warranty which tranfers to the new owner.

Just wondering what to expect.

YMMV

Coming from the UK I expected this to be required by the bank, so I asked them where to find an architect/engineer and they looked completely blank. Then they assumed I wanted to do some improvements and add an improvement part to the mortgage leading to complete confusion all round. In the end the actual answer was "you don't need that here".

Hopefully not an Elbonian fella with a hammer and a drill wanting to make sure the walls are not empty inside

If I have learned anything in my jaunts through the jungles of the Swiss property market, it is that if, when asking about a common-sense step to protect your interests, someone says "You don't need that here"... you probably actually do need it here.

The one that the new owners hired to check ours was useless too. He just had a walk around with a clip board.

He never checked all the obviously places with potential problems such as damp.

Useless waste of money (but not mine).

"Need" in terms of the mortgage provider, not personal reassurance.

As noted by others, unless you pay a lot an inspection will probably be pretty superficial and doesn't have any guarantees attached.

If you're reasonably confident about structural stuff then there are lots of lists of what to check online. I took at least a couple of hours to check our house before buying. The previous owner didn't complain about me poking all the exposed wood, climbing behind the oil tank and feeling everywhere for damp, I think he thought it was quite interesting but that I was a bit mad.

Were I to do it all over again, I would look for a construction manager or engineer rather than an architect to do the house inspection. The architect seemed to know little about building, was more concerned with design. (And selling us his services for the planned renovation.)

When we renovated with a different architect we found the same thing. We had to include the architect in the project in order to get the permits and the construction manager who was recommended to us. But the architect knew little - or simply was completely uninterested - in actual bricks and mortar. I don't know if that is common here, but two out of two...

Next time, a Bauleiter or engineer.

But I still wouldn't buy a house without an inspection, new build or ancient farmhouse. I've seen horrors hiding in walls here. I'm sort of a 'relatively savvy layman', and OH certainly knows his way around a tool box.... but we still don't know enough about Swiss construction regs, and more importantly historical practices, to do a thorough inspection on our own. There are so few buyer protections here, spending a few thousand to (try to) safeguard a few million is still IMO a necessary investment.

We have construction experience, having built and renovated houses in Europe and the US. Still, we used our attorney's friend/Bauingenieur for This Old House. He told us exactly how the house was put together, the local building standards/practices at the time, and the materials used. He advised us of drain runs with insufficient grade, old electric panels, cellar damp that needed sealing, etc. We hired him to tear out pokey little rooms, blow out the ceilings, and install huge wooden beams to support the roof. It cost very little compared to the value he added. Even if we hadn't done the reno (and kept the house as is), his fees were a no-brainer.

While we're on the subject of building quality, we've just had some electric blinds replaced.

I'm astonished as to how much electrical insulation tape was used for the initial installation. I didn't realise that was the real "Swiss norm".

Still, that's beaten by the electrical socket in the basement tied to the wall with a piece of string!

(And before anyone suggests that this may all have been done by the previous home owner, I've got a breakdown of the cots of this and other renovations which runs into six figures in total).

I've found the amount of electrical insulation tape is inversely proportional to the amount of glass wool insulation in any particular section of our house. In some places I'm sure we got more heat insulation from the tape holding things in place behind panels than the half-hearted scraps of real insulation they used.

And don't even mention Wago connectors - did they not have more than a 3-way connector in the "olden days"? Connecting five or six cables shouldn't require three Wago (and then multiply by live, earth, neutral)!

Well it is not our money, so that is not my concern. Apparently the buyers want an engineer.

The house was built by Schwoerer Haus in Germany. An architect from the region designed it, and a local building company did the construction up to the point where Schwoerer Haus did their part. Specific companies were hired to install things such as the lift. All of these people are still around. We have the house plans, which are available online through the builder's customer portal.

The electrician who worked on the house, and the plumber, both local firms, are still in business.

We have not had the electrical check as when we bought it we were told it wasn't required.

We didn't have an inspection done when we bought it. We asked a lot of questions and the agent had to go chase the information from the owner. She had left the country and clearly she didn't know much as her late husband looked after everything. What the agent did hide from us was this XL dog door in a wall leading to the outside. There was something in front of it on both sides. When we got the keys the house still wasn't emptied as it should have been so we still didn't see the dog door It has since been closed.

An inspection might have found the dog door. Only thing else which might have been revealed was a hornet's nest outside a second floor window, and a cracked solar panel. Difficult to say.

We have sold 4 properties privately. No one ever asked for an inspection. Maybe they could see that the properties were very well maintained and we were up front about everything. 2 of the properties were building land and that can be very complicated as there are many rules.

I think the challenges the buyers will have is finding someone they can communicate with and since wood construction like Schwoerer Haus is not common in the Ticino region, finding someone who is familiar with this type of construction. We know people but the buyers would probably not trust anyone we suggested.

We once looked at a property where there were cracks inside. We had an architect visit the property. He brought a hammer. He said he had never seen a house built like it and he didn't mean that in a positive way. We didn't buy it.

So this is going to be rather interesting I think. Thanks for everyone's input.

Mrs D, when we requested an inspection it was up to us, the buyers, to organize and pay for the whole thing. Which makes sense - we wanted someone who worked for us.

If your buyers want one done, your involvement really should only be to agree to a date. You don't even have to be there. Let the buyer do the work - you have enough on your plate with the sale as it is.

Good luck with the sale!