noisy toddler upstairs

Sutter, I'm a bit confused I didn't see an entry from Sada in this thread.

I am amazed at that toddlers energy, where does he get it from ??? ...

yep I am a bit oléolé, spent all day with folks celebrating.

I thought it was crying but then corrected, well deleted it

Sada had posted about the baby crying and she could understand how it was annoying i tried to quote Sada, but they must of deleted the post as i was quoting

Sorry for the confusion

There you go Oldhand Sada was correcting her post that is why it was confusing

yep, a tiny moment of confusion. sorry

still a baby crying hours ongoing, phew, that is unbearable

but that toddler seems to have the energy of a little devil, how come ??? ...

what do they feed him ???

You are Russell Brand and I claim my five pounds.

Cheers,

Nick

We signed up for the whole package of free audio ambiance & action sound effects living in our flat...

We have a train station directly behind our flat which often wakes me up at 5 am. We also have some musicians on the same floor. The loudest noises however come from above us where a couple with 3 loud screaming youngsters live. They also have a dog that can be quite active. I constantly hear the pitter patter of the dog's footsteps combined with the Olympic High Jumping training being practiced by the kid's...

I'll admit at first, it took some getting used to... But I just accepted this is part of life in a flat, and a minor annoyance you can learn to live with. I find a little white noise from a fan works wonders!! It will help drown out the noise. Otherwise just do your best to tune out the rest. The more you let it get to you, the more you will notice it!!!

Kids are going to be kids. It is part of life.

Speak of the devil.... BOOM!!! There goes another stampede upstairs as I type this.

Pwa, you should hear the two living next door to me, there is only 13 months between them in age. They scrap and scream like crazy. I haven't complained

because I know the parents can do little about it.

Anyway they come in handy if you've had a few too many and forgot to set your alarm clock! I haven't got the luxury of moving out as we've bought the place but I'm hanging on to the fact it's just a phase.

As a teacher, I often had complete live wires in my class and wonder how on earth they got that way(this was years before I had my own kids) and when I saw the parents on parent's evening and saw how exhausted they were and how much they tried with their kids, I just wanted to make them a cup of tea, give them a cuddle and tell them it was going to be okay.. actually I often did that and would end up supporting the parents more than the kids

Better to use the 'final exit' before reaching that state.

Strange that the cycle of life takes us back to our beginnings.

I agree. BTW: Is your avatar pointing out on the scene from Alien, grouse man?

Please read my post 58 and feel sorry for the parents it is not easy being a parent to a baby, child, or teenager

Firstly, I do feel for you. You should be able to enjoy your living space and it sounds like that is not the case. Imagine a family living in a large apartment 6 1/2 room, suited for a family, in a building with similar size apartments only to discover that the other 6 1/2 apartments are occupied by DINKS! As the only family in the building it was a nightmare. The lesson learned was to check out the entire building before you rent a flat.

But I am curious, did you find the apartment on your own or did you have help? When you looked at the apartment, was no one home upstairs? Did you ask about the neighbours? I always do so there are no surprises. I like to make sure that families with children live where there are other children, and single people generally don't want to live where there are children, so I always ask about the neighbours. Landlords are never surprised at this. How long have you lived there and has the situation been the same from the outset?

Is your apartment in a building that was once a single family house and has been converted into a multi unit dwelling? These can be the worst places to live in terms of noise.

My advice, invite the landlord over for a coffee (don't forget cake) at a time when you think the upstairs neighbours are home. If the landlord cannot offer any advice, you may have to go to mediation with your situation. You have nothing to lose...As a first step you have to notify the landlord in writing.

Have you invited one of the family members of the upstairs apartment to your apartment to experience what you have to listen to?

I think the point of this thread is not about a toddler being a toddler and trying to change that, but about renting an apartment that falls below your expections and not being able to enjoy one's living space.

Unfortunately I think you are probably going to have to move to find a complete solution. You are not alone in renting a place and finding out it is not suitable. The next time you are looking for an apartment, you will know what to be on the alert for.

Good luck - I hope you find a satisfactory solution. If you do end up at mediation, you might try and negotiate the right to move with a short notice, outside of the normal notice periods, and without the obligation of finding a follow on tenant. In my experience this might be the best deal you can hope for. Moving costs, end cleaning fees, etc - you can forget asking about those, they are unlikely to be awarded.

Too complicated to handle, people get emotional when it comes to kids. As I understand you're renting, I'd recommend moving ASAP.

Whilst I do understand that this may be the obvious answer, surely it is a bit short sighted.

Unless the OP moves to a totally detached house in a rural area, where new development is unlikely, then the chances of a similar situation arising are always high (noisy children, barking dogs, loud music, etc).

As long as we choose to live surrounded by other people, then noise will always be a potential problem.

Before rushing to move out I would seriously consider taking on board some of the other excellent suggestions in this thread about communicating with the landlord, the people upstairs, and other neighbors.

I hope you are able to sort something out elabrandon

People get emotional when it comes to noise from anything. Dogs barking, musical instruments, loud tv, loud stereo, late night parties, showering late...the list could go on and on to include cow bells. We have a cockatoo so we don't live in a quiet area and this is perfect. The cows in the field next to my house, drown out the noise of my dogs parking and my cockatoo singing.

I've found the solution!

A few landmines to deter hikers, plenty of barbed wire to keep the sheep away, and Bob's yer uncle!

My ex-girlfriend had a cockatoo.

That's why we broke up...