I am Vietnamese, and I have a French boyfriend who works and lives in Lausanne. Right now I am holding a French student visa, and we have been together for almost 2 years. But the problem is my visa will be ex-prided on September 2011, so if I want to stay longer with my boyfriend in Switzerland, is there anyway to stay and can I find a job here? We dont want to get married yet, not in near future and I read about the information of registered partnerships, but I dont know it works in Lausanne or not? If you have any information or same situation or you know someone I could contacts to get more information, I really appreciate a lots. Thank you!
Hi all,
I've no idea how many non-EU folk have asked this sort of question on here.
But this is some of the relevant documentation.
I know, I read all the threads in this forum but I could not find any case as me, and any clear answers. Just want to find out there is anyone already passed or have experiences in kind of situation!
Hi
I've been in a similar situation, though for a host of reasons we switched to the wedding plan.
However, what a friend of ours did, and what you can also do is to go to your office of migration and your bf can sign a paper saying he'll support you financially. There are requirements (e.g. apartment size, salary), but they vary from canton to canton (city to city), so the best thing you can do is contact them in yourself. If the person happens to be rude or not too helpful, call/go again the next day (to see someone else).
Switzerland doesn't really recognize informal relationships (in the case of heterosexual couples), and people tend to be a little conservative regarding marriage. (Not scorning informal marriages, but not giving permits on such a basis.)
I think the best option is to go "financially dependent". Then you have the time to do some jobhunting. If you can find an employer who hires you (over Swiss and EU, but all my Hungarian friends work so it shouldn't be a big deal) and does the paperwork -- well, there you are, living in CH with your sweetheart!
And who knows, I'm not saying it will but the mountain air might actually draw you together. I know lots of mixed nationality couples in CH and nowadays they're all getting married... I don't know... (Can't really speak about the rest of the country, but) the Lake Geneva area is just such a romantic yet rational place. When you see all the skiing and swimming and sailing and hiking etc. you can do together and experience the security of your relationship as opposed to the hardships that come with settling down in a strange country... It just gives you all sorts of ideas about making the team official. OK, I'm def not saying you will think about it. But I'd never really worry about long term plans in CH.
Just inquire after the dependent status (the best you can do at the moment) and come and see for yourself if you'd like here etc.
And don't worry just yet. People say things about the job market, etc. but for every unfortunate incident I know a happy story too. With your French studies etc. you'll have a couple of strong points in your CV.
And you might wanna check this out.
(With all the above I suppose he has a steady job and a B permit. With Ls or the like it becomes more difficult but I don't think EU nationals get those nowadays.)
Registered partnership isn't going to work for you whether or not the kanton recognises them. You would need a few more years and preferable some offspring before having sufficient evidence of a stable relationship.
As you discount marriage then your only option is to find a job with a company willing to sponsor your permit.
Thank you a lots flowerstar, I almost lose my hope to stay with my boyfriend in Swiss without getting married after all the information I have read in this forum or even other information sources. Your post give me hope so I will try to find out by going to COP to ask, I hope my french is good enough to let they be helpful to me, :P! Anyway, I still have over one year to do this so just cross finger that it will work!
And to Swissbob, if to find a job in Swiss as easy as you say, I dont think there would be a lots of No-Eu citizens posted their thread to ask the same question as me, But anyhow, thank you for spending time to reply me, it's very nice from you, !
Wish everyone have nice sunday!
I must say, I cannot see where swissbob said that it would be easy for you to find a job in Switzerland. As you have quite a time to search, you might be lucky but I don't think you are in the same position as flowerstar's Hungarian friends with view to permits.
I meant if to find a job in Swiss was easy, I would never ask for this kind of registered partnership to stay with my bf (because Swissbob said my only option was to find a job then get the permit to stay, which as I know is almost impossible for Non-Eu citizens). Anyhow, I will try to do something, rather than do nothing, !
IF your boyfriend is going to financially support you, then wouldn't it make sense to ask him to make the enquiries ? He speaks French, after all!
Where did I say it was easy?
Actually, most of them found jobs first (before getting any kind of permit). But whatever, I would definitely give the Swiss job market some time to show what it has to offer (or to show its teeth). I've applied for a job I was so sure I'd get (5 ys experience) but they didn't even care to reply. Then when talking to my friends I put it down to my current lack of permit and complained how hard it is to find a job without one, the started telling me off for being such a pussy. They told me if I fought hard enough and had the right technique it would only be a matter of a couple of months. Well, I'll wait for my permit as I don't want to scare off all employers I might want to hit at, but seriously, saying that it's impossible without a permit is like saying it's impossible to climb the Mont Blanc. Very hard, but not impossible. You'll need the right gear but it's totally doable.
This question comes up a lot - perhaps another subject for a "FAQ" section on the forum.
The rule is there are no rules for your situation. Unmarried partners can get dependant visas, - from what we've heard on this forum, that much is clear. As Swissbob says, you'll have have to demonstrate a stable relationship and as Fl0werstar says your boyfriend will have to agree to financially support you and show he has the means to do it. However, it's completely up to the commune's/canton's individual discretion whether to accept or reject you and from the cases we've heard of, the conditions they apply aren't consistent. Some seem stricter than others, especially in relation to the length of time you've been together. Having a child may make it easier but most we've heard from haven't had kids. I'd do what others say - start with your local Commune and ask them. People in your situation seem to get treated on a case by case basis so you'll never know until you ask. At least you're here and have a visa for the time being. Maybe that will make a difference. Maybe not. But be prepared to answer questions like why you have no plans to marry in the near future. That may count against you.
Oh yes, definitely prepare for (otherwise) nosy questions (that are totally logical in this case). You'll have to sort of "defend" your relationship and not get upset. They need some justification that you're not just some random couple going out but you might actually have a steady future in Switzerland.
Good luck!
Please bear in mind that the tittle Registered Partnership is only for the case of same sex marriage between man and man or woman and woman. As you are a girl would like to stay with your bf here, the only easiest way is to get married with him. Finding a job with a non high skill here, is a nightmare.
Good luck brown rat :-p
Well that's just not true. There are plenty of heterosexual partnerships registered as such in some kantons. Usually, these are only for those in long, established relationships and usually with children.
Hello, I am non EU and moved to Zurich with my German husband. IT was a nightmare! I would have thought being a professional with loads of experience I could find a job but no one even wanted to deal with it being I was non EU, didn't speak Swiss german and they had to request permits. They have to prove they could not find a Swiss to fill the position. So depends on your market. As for being sponsored, We were told it does not exist for non EU.
We were already wedding planing and was told we could get the fiancee Visa so we set a date and had everything planned. But a few months before the wedding I was sent a letter stating I was given false information and being I am not EU it is up to the person doing the paperwork to approve me. (I was denied and already reg. and paying the fee and had insurance as they told em to get) I reapplied with printed out documents stating we were told and have already planned a wedding and paid deposits ( I was enrolled in German classes ect.) Only to get a a second letter stating I had 1 week to leave the country. Frantic the only thing we had on our side was my husband is German and in German you can be sponsored. So I used his parents address and didn't travel for the last few months. Like I said nightmare, they were soo mean and we were sent back and forth and no one at any of the offices would give us a straight answer even with my husband speaking perfect German. Please do your homework for what it's worth and get everything in writing and signed by whom ever giving you info or you will be running around like CRAZY! Good luck!
Fixed that for you .
Who told you that? The fact is only non-EU need to be sponsored.
Correct me if I'm wrong but it sounds like you arrived first and then applied for a fiance visa? Nothing is likely to get up the noses of the authorities than people doing things the wrong way round .
Hello, I am in the same situation, just a little difference. I am a non EU student in Italy and my residence permit will expire in July 2011. I am currently living with my Swiss bf here and trying to find a job in vain since I am just learning German.
My bf's sister has a company and his mother also has one and they are trying to hire me. We don't want to talk about marriage since he is not ready. The problem is that the company they have just deal with houses and spa products so it is nearly impossible to give me a job that the Swiss government can accept.
Can you suggest me in this situation? If they give me a work contract, will it work? Thank you very much
isn't Hungary part of the EU? Surely that makes a difference?
Not in this case - also Hungary is new EU in Swiss terms so different rules anyway.