Olympic Games 2024 - Paris

I fully agree. Is this new or did we simply never know?!

No Swiss police, huh?
Well, Elena Hartmann is racing cyclist and police woman. Militia system, normal for Switzerland :grin:

edit to correct info: there is Swiss plice in France.

:rofl: forgot all about them. No offense.
Swaziland at least made some kind of sense.

There were unarmed foreign police present at the London 2012 Olympics, but these were mainly assigned to their country’s athletes and staff (i.e. Foreign Liaison Officers). In Paris it seems like they are plugging a shortfall in officers, which is strange given the large size of the country and the fact that the military could also be used to bolster numbers.

Well, I wanted to check and found:

“Specifically, the foreign police officers are dog squads for searching for explosives, drone defense teams, border guards, spotters (police officers who track down violent supporters), bomb disposal experts, riders and motorcyclists.
These reinforcements will support officers from the Paris police administration, the national police, the national gendarmerie and the civil defense. Many of them will be stationed at train stations, airports and near the 39 Olympic venues.”

Still think it’s a crazy idea imo. The Europeans is one thing but … Katar? Don’t get me wrong but their laws are just so completely different from those around here.
And all this at an event (sport) where even the reserved Swiss tend to freak out over nothing :open_mouth:

from this site: Europäische Polizeikräfte unterstützen Frankreich bei Olympischen Spielen – Euractiv DE was lazy, used deepl.

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The Swiss border guards are hanging out along the border with France.

From WRS

Heightened security at border crossings between France and Switzerland

Friday, 26 July 2024 06:00

Image: Federal Office of Customs and Border Security OFDF

Border police, customs officers and gendarmerie from Switzerland and France have been conducting coordinated controls of an unprecedented scale this week across 570km of border between the countries.

On Wednesday night, just few days before the opening of the Olympic and Paralympic Games in Paris, nearly 500 vehicles and 900 people were checked across Valais, Vaud, Geneva, Neuchâtel, Jura, Basel-Country and Basel-City on the Swiss side and Haut-Rhin, Territoire de Belfort, Doubs, Jura and Haute Savoie on the French side.

They discovered numerous violations concerning weapons, narcotics, waste and even tobacco import.

There has been a gradual increase in cooperation between the customs officers of France and Switzerland over the past few years.

:rofl: :rofl:
yeah, never mind the weapons and the narcotics.

But now I’m curious: Who smuggled waste? Which country charges less for waste disposal? I’d guess France but that would mean the Swiss drive their private waste out of the country? At these petrol prices? And if anyone used to know that time is money, it ws the Swiss :rofl:
Thanks for the giggle.

There have been various reports over the years of many Swiss residents being too mean to pay for Gemeinde / Commune rubbish sacks so they have instead taken their rubbish to France and Germany and either dumped it in public bins there or left it by the roadside.

Many are going there anyway to shop once a week so the “Time is money” argument is irrelevant.

Terrible but true.

Geneva doesn’t have the waste bag charges but Vaud (and everywhere else) does. Ain (01) has a terrible problem with waste smugglers. I imagine other departments do as well.

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As the other thread is for the actual competitions, I’ll put these two items here.

I’m disappointed that the Netherlands, with so many fantastic athletes, has chosen to put a convicted child rapist on their Olympic team and that the IOC says ok, no problem. I can understand that he served his time in prison and says he’s rehabilitated, but IMO he doesn’t deserve to be on the world stage in such a manner with a potential to win a medal and all the “Olympic glory” that would come with it. How many other fantastic athletes were passed over for this guy?

Meanwhile, video from a few years ago has surfaced of decorated British a horse rider whipping a horse. She has withdrawn from the Olympics. She’s obviously embarrassed and ashamed, but I wonder if it’s more because she got caught on film than because of her abhorrent behaviour.

They didn’t say that. They were uncomfortable with the situation:

“To characterise it as comfortable and happy would not be correct,”

Is it the abhorrence of the particular crime which makes you feel he shouldn’t attend or that even though he had served his time for the crime as decided by a court of law, he has no right to have a life as a normal citizen and should be judged forever for his crime?

Do you feel that about all crimes or just these sorts?

I’m not criticising your viewpoint but trying to understand it from perhaps a more European point of view.

Well, what is your point of view then?

What’s yours? And what’s your point?

Uncomfortable, but not uncomfortable enough to ask the country to choose a different athlete. That’s sad to me. And it’s the particular violent crime against a child, that disturbs me. Olympic athletes are held up as model examples by people across the globe, including children. Yes, he served his legal time for the crime. However, imo a child rapist should not be allowed to bask in Olympic glory.

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I am uncomfortable considering that beach volleyball is an actual sport.

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Thanks for the candid answer. I think I agree with you. It’s a difficult moral dilemma.

I’d be interested to hear @OakbrookIL 's answer too as they seem interested in the subject.

I agree with 3wishes. Happy now?

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I’m happy that you took part in the conversation. I’m not happy in the way you did it.

(Both of your posts).

And of what relevance is that?

I know you didn’t ask me but the system of a constitutional state is: Get punished, serve the sentence, get an other chance.

I personally deeply believe in this system. And while I admit I’m not totally free of reservations (would not invest money in a deal with a convicted fraud or send my child to Kindergarten run by a once convicted paedophile (specially the latter probably not being a one-off-urge) I also believe people must be able to carry on in life.
Adding: Actually it’s not about believe and feelings (although sometimes very difficult) it is about our system - which I believe is the right one but if so, it comes with discomfort, I guess.

This thread is about the Olympics, not about me. Discuss the Olympics or clear off and start your own thread on whatever makes you happy.

@3Wishes: Please can you have a word with your fellow mod . Thanks.