Can’t see this ever being workable.
It’s not that complicated to implement tracking based on the number plate. The main question which remains unanswered is how much will be the transit tax.
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Define a stop. Overnight stay, stop for lunch/meal along the way? Toilet break?
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Well, clearly, you’re granted a dispensation if you consume a (Swiss) pro specie rara product during your transit …
Apologies if your topic opening or your recent remark was satirical. If not …
Contrary to popular belief, it’s possibly not this forum’s collective opinion that decides on what the stop is? The details will be discussed ad infinitum in said parliament, will be voted on multiple times, sent across the chambers, etc. We might even vote on it …
What’s the purpose of this topic? Venting, obviously … right! Anything else?
Hey, I contributed my venting part, you’re welcome.
Just posting info that might be of interest to others, same as most stuff posted on the forum.
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* plus stating your own opinion on top of the provided “info”.
Not saying you can’t or shouldn’t, just adding my own view on you posting “the info of interest to others”.
If any part of the vehicles journey is between (during ski season) 09h00 and 19h00 on Saturdays or Sundays a fee of CHF200. If all of the journey is between 00h01 05h35 on Saturdays or Sundays -no charge.
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This tax has a long history. Hundreds of years ago, if you wanted to transit Switzerland, you would have been subjected to a number of “taxes”. The problems these days is only to find a way that is compatible with existing law/treaties etc etc. Now if Donny was in charge, it would easy. Just issue an executive order.
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I just caught my alter ego making calculations about the appropriate toll for the Strait of the Gotthard!
Empires still rooted in the Middle Ages would probably just block it now. Lawyers would argue to find a way with existing law/treaties. Arm chair economists and/or politicians would just post on this forum.[P]
P Like myself.
Basic netiquette. Lone links are not OK, a comment on any link is more than welcome
Entering the topic: looking forward to road congestion pricing.
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Food for thought for the economists - and their excel sheets.
This is based on unabridged AI reading of the swiss statistic official pages…
If the money goes to pay the 13 AHV… I’m all for the Strait of the Gotthard 
Around 1.1 million cars cross Swiss borders every day, according to 2024 figures from the Federal Office for Customs and Border Security (FOCBS).
Key statistics regarding border traffic:
- Total Vehicles: Besides the 1.1 million passenger cars, about 21,000 lorries cross the border daily.
- Daily Traffic Flow: In addition to these, roughly 2.2 million people cross the border daily, which includes a high volume of cross-border workers.
- Cross-border Commuters: There are over 400,000 foreign commuters (mostly from France, Italy, and Germany) who cross into Switzerland daily to work, contributing to the high traffic numbers.
- Busiest Regions: The border with France is the busiest, with an average of over 0.5 million people passing through daily. The Chiasso motorway checkpoint in Ticino is among the busiest, with roughly 64,500 crossings daily.
- Alpine Transit: On average, roughly 32,700 passenger cars and coaches pass the main Swiss Alpine ridge per day
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The clue is in the name: Swiss forum.
Forum: a medium for open discussion, exchange of ideas, and public debate
I guess the price charged should depend on the purpose of the transit tax: if it is just a money-making scheme then something on the low side would suffice.
If the purpose is to remove transit traffic from Switzerland’s roads then a somewhat higher charge would be necessary.
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When will they finally start to charge external costs to road users. This would be easy today with a simple app. You pay depending on where you drive in what at what time. Every time you enter your car you have to pay that, rate depends on country, Kanton, municipality and private road owners. It will be charged automatically. No further tax or toll needed, not even for gasoline! You get charged for everything, road, noise, pollution, traffic jam and so on. You pay what you use and don’t let others pay like the last hundred years…
Let’s see if people still decide to spend their Easter holidays in front of the Gotthard if they have to pay more for that then for the complete rest of their holidays…
I think this was described in the book the undercover economist.
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My impression is that a lot of people only drive to Ticino or north Italy around Milano. The “Holidays” means visiting family or property south of the tunnel, so the “holiday destination” is not that easy to change with higher fees.
There’s also the Saturday-to-Saturday thing in holiday apartments. On Saturday we run to the shops before they close,at the same time people leaving and arriving to holiday apartments want to use the same roads. We all end up being miserable because little innkeepers have their traditions and shops don’t open on Sundays .
Yep. Everybody in a traffic jam is victim and offender.
Road pricing money helps, but it has to be a lot to be efficient. People seriously have to weight their options, move closer to work or spend the holidays somehow different. Or just pay a shitton of money as until now everybody else pays for them!
Yep.
Before knowing better, a motorhome smelling to burning clutch or a compact car pulling a big caravan (blocking a lane because it broke) made me curse a bit. Now, we cross south before 7h00 and going north not earlier than 21h00, and no high traffic weekends. Take a nap if needed. All smooth.
The French charge €9.50 tolls per 100kms. At a minimum cars leaving and reentering France should pay at least that. 250km from Geneva to Basle would be €24 per one way journey. As an incentive to have drivers stay on the French Motorway system this should be doubled to CHF50.
Could be charged only at peak times I.e. rush hours and changeover days during ski season.
The purpose of this forum is to share and discuss topics of interest to those with a connection to Switzerland. It’s even in the right category! 
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