Philips Hue bulbs

Every Bulb I can find has an efficiency rating of F or G. Does anyone know of a bulb compatible with the Philips Bridge that is A, A+, A++

These are A+

https://www.philips-hue.com/en-gb/p/...specifications

https://www.philips-hue.com/en-gb/p/...specifications

If I change the type to E27 they are F.

I thought I'd look into this.

The Energy rating charts for electrical devices get updated fairly regularly as devices get more efficient.

On an old chart, an LED lamp would probably get an A++++++ rating!

The last up date for lamp bulbs, in Europe, was 2019 so relatively recently. This measures efficacy (lm/W) so is basically showing how much light is given out per Watt of electricity.

Non-LED bulbs would not even appear on this new chart. Also note, there is no efficiency rating higher than an A so you won't find an A+.

The difference between an A and an F is roughly that an A will give out twice as much light per Watt as an F.

A smart bulb will always use a little more power than a non-smart equivalent but this difference is negligible in real terms.

(If people are worried about this sort of difference then they could make much bigger savings in their homes by speeding up the time that their fridge door is open, for example).

However, in real usage terms, the difference is not so great as smart bulbs are quite often set at at a less bright setting than fully on, and when set up in a smart home system, they are more than often off unless someone is in the room.

In terms of energy usage per hour, an E27 Philips Hue lamp equivalent in brightness to a 100W filament bulb, and with the new 'F' rating, will use 0.016KW/Hour.

A filament bulb will use 0.1KW/Hour.

That is a massive difference.

In conclusion, don't worry about the "F" rating!

So they replace an easy to understand rating system A++ - G with something only an electrician can understand.

Insanity

No, not really. It's just that they needed a new set of values as modern lamps are just so energy efficient compared with old ones.

It's still A to G. The differences are minimal.

But where was the explanation of what happened? Here I am trying to bring some home automation to my home looking for energy efficient bulbs and confronted with only F and G bulbs. To me that appeared to be the absolute worst bulbs all at eye watering prices.

So for a week or two I’ve been wasting my time and banging my head against the wall.

Thank you Tom for setting me on the lighted path.

Could some kindly Mod please change the title to

New European Bulb Standard A —> G

This is a better explanation of the subject discussed and may help future searches.

Thank you

The first three posts could also be pruned as they have become irrelevant.