Protection of vulnerable road users from motorised traffic (both perceived and actual)

No, but I obviously hit one with you.

Did you come to this thread because you were bored with your mission of atonement on the Middle Eastern thread`?

As I said. Obsessive.

Maybe you should try focusing your energy on their selfish and entitled behaviour rather than my reaction to it?

Selfish and entitled according to you, no? I don’t think you can use this argument in a court of justice. If you’re indeed chasing cyclists and slow drivers as you pretend here (I still hope you’re bluffing), hence endangering their lives, you’re the one who should focus your energy on your reactions…
You’re not in the traffic to police anyone else’s behaviour and reactions other than yourself.
This flame war apart, don’t do anything with the intention to harm someone else, regardless of your opinion that “they had it coming”.
Do you still need people to explain you this or do you just dislike folks here so much that you go on with this silliness ad infinitum just for the lols?

Tom1234 has experienced deranged behaviour from drivers while cycling and you take a great pleasure to mock him because he’s complained here. Wow.
Maybe it’s not what drivers want to hear…but maybe they need to hear.

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I’ve never ‘chased’ a cyclist or a slow driver and to be clear, I have never really endangered a cyclists life. When I say I close pass it’s to:
a) let them know that they can’t block other vehicles from passing
b) put the window down and let them know I think what they’re doing is wrong.

As I’ve said multiple times, if someone pushes in front of me in a queue I am also going to “police” this behaviour - it’s not my job or responsibility and I probably have no legal right to do so, but I’m going to do it anyway as it’s the right thing to do.

The right thing to do is to plan your journeys so you can leave ten minutes earlier so you don’t get all hot and flustered and enraged if you get delayed by a few moments by another road user.

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I always leave early and am almost never hurrying when I’m on the road. It’s not because I’m in a rush, it’s just the principle.

Same way if someone cuts in front of me in a line, it’s not that I can’t wait an extra two minutes, it’s the principle.

So why oh why do you believe it incumbent on you to harass other road users if they haven’t even inconvenienced you?

It’s the principle, you say? What principle is this then? Do you also flag down every car you see going over the speed limit? do you check parked vehicles for valid parking permits? Do you wind the window down and have it out with every motorist you see using a mobile phone?

No, of course you do not. That would be ridiculous, right?

And yet that’s what you’re claiming about cyclists, it’s just the principle and they need to be educated about where they’re going wrong.

No, this is just a pathetic attempt to back-track from your initial standpoint on this subject where you claimed that you deliberately drove too close to cyclists that had upset you. Whether that was just you trolling or whether you really do this we don’t know, but trying to shift your position from an original extreme to a less objectionable one is a common trick and is fooling nobody.

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Same kind of sanctimonious behavior as staying in the fast lane going exactly the speed limit to “teach” other drivers.

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Talking on a mobile phone I personally don’t really see much of an issue, but texting/looking down at the phone, yeah - but I dont see that very often (not saying it doesn’t happen a lot)

Over the speed limit? Yeah sure, but as I am normally just cruising they go past and it’s finished. When I am walking on my street, where many kids live and cross the road and I see a car speeding then I’ll definitely let them know of my disapproval.

Two really big pet peeves of mine, where I have also had altercations over, are people not parking in the lines properly and also people who creep along and hold others up whilst looking or fiddling with their GPS instead of just pulling over.

Oooh I hate that one too, in fact so much so that I now pretty much drive exclusively in the slow lane.

Talking on a mobile phone hands-free or otherwise is, according to one study at least, more dangerous than driving whilst drunk.

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I see it every day.

I’ve had more than two occasions here where cars have driving straight at me - on the wrong side of the road - and the driver has been on their mobile phone.
If a driver isn’t keeping to their lane, invariably they will be scrolling through their phone.

You’re supposed to drive in that lane. The outer lane is for overtaking.

Are you sure you have passed a driving test? Or, do you have little experience of driving?
From some of your comments on here it would appear to be one of the two above.

It’s excruciatingly common, and I’m not even especially looking out for it. I’ve even seen truck drivers using the screen of the phone whilst furtively looking up at the road ahead. Madness.

Also have to add that it’s not exclusive to CH. It’s ubiquitous in the UK and probably elsewhere too.

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Some drivers engage in tailgating in these situations which is also completely wrong.

Oh no, that’s all right. The worst thing that can happen is you get punched in your face (if it’s a crazy person)? but probably just ignored or muttered some insults at… Most people would admit they were wrong and apologise though.
You can’t compare road rage with someone cutting in front of you in line…totally different potential consequences.

You can if you’re trying to deflect the discussion away from a corner you’ve backed yourself into.

But yes, you’re right, that is in no way equivalent to “I’ll deliberately drive too close to cyclists when they’ve pissed me off” which KK has tried to justify several times in this thread.

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There are some exceptions, like when both lanes are moving at around the same speed, be that as a result of speed-restricted areas, roadworks, accident or just heavy traffic. I do quite often find that some people get impatient with me because I tend to leave a gap in front of me to allow for less braking when the cars in front slow down, and you get the odd one who will aggressively try to overtake on the inside, just to sit one car in front of me for the next five minutes. I normally just back off and let them get on with it, life’s too short.

It was about establishing the fact that it is in fact ok to “police” other people when they’re trying to take liberties with you.

Often it’s not even about deliberately driving too close, it’s more there’s some selfish wanker choosing to pedal in the middle of the road which then forces me to pass them closely as I overtake them.

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Not the middle of the road, the middle of the lane.

This is advised at times for cyclists to prevent an arsehole trying to overtake you when doing so would put them in danger.

No one is forcing you to overtake them. It’s your own entitlement that make you think you need to.

Don’t overtake them - wait until it is safe.

You’re an inexperienced beginner motorist.

Listen to sound advice from more experienced motorists on this forum.

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And then afterwards? When they continue to cycle in the middle of the lane with no reason to do so?

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But is that a single cyclist randomly cycling in the middle of a lane?

I can imagine it maybe happens if there is more than one and they are abreast but it doesn’t sound plausible that a cyclist would suddenly put themselves in danger and drift away from the edge of the road for no reason?