Quality of Diesel fuel in France?

Transportation, Travel and Trips
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Dear petrol heads, a month ago I got another car, it's a Audi 2.0 TDI engine which runs on diesel, of course. Now, previously I had petrol so this was never an issue as I was always pumping fuel in Switzerland due to the same price or almost same price, but traveling in France today I noticed diesel price is about 1.00 EUR where in Switzerland it's 1.56 CHF!

On a 75 liter tank it does make some difference

While I like to save, I wouldn't want to screw up my engine. This being Switzerland and all, we must have better diesel than the French? Or no?

Looking long term, should I keep on pumping at Shell in Switzerland or start using the French pumps, like Avia and BP?

I wonder if French diesel is as suited as the Swiss one for a modern TDI engine.

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In 2012 approximately three new diesel passenger cars were registered in France to one new petrol passenger car. It appears that only Belgium had a slightly higher rate of registration of new diesel passenger cars than France:

http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statist...cars_in_the_EU

I wouldn't worry about buying diesel fuel in France.

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French air alone will ruin your precious car. Stay home.

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But I need a tin foil hat for that. Do you have one?

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Germany has one. You have an Audi, the car knows the way.

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Diesel is just 0.45 Euro per liter in Russia. Could save a lot if over that direction sometime:

http://www.globalpetrolprices.com/Russia/diesel_prices/

Russia still has inexpensive 76 octane petrol too. Doesn't work so well in western vehicles but recommended for the Russian Lada:

http://www.themoscowtimes.com/busine...rs/518090.html

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First world problem..... again....?

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Swiss diesel and gasoline is produced in a special refinery, that produces higher quality especially for Swiss cars.

Swiss cars are also produced on special production lines (all car makers do that) and have a much better quality.

If you drive your Swiss car with Swiss fuel on a Swiss road, the experience is like an automative orgasm.

Never buy fuel in a foreign country because it will ruin your Swiss car.

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I never drive to the UK without one of these

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There is a norm for diesel fuel EN 590. Most important points are:

- flash point: should be higher than 55°C

- water quantity: max 200mg/kg

- proportion of fatty acid methyl esther: max 7%

On the long term it can have an impact on your engine. Main risk is for the injection pump. Luckily there is a TCS test on diesel quality for different european countries (I assume ADAC has same type of test report).

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Quoting the above link, TCS test on diesel quality for different european countries

France

Von insgesamt 31 Diesel-Stichproben wurde bei 6 Proben ein zu tiefer Flammpunkt gemessen. Bei einer Probe war zuviel Bio-Diesel beigefügt. Dies ist ein mässiges Resultat, 28% der gemessenen Proben erfüllen die Norm nicht . Es gilt festzuhalten, dass sich sechs Proben innerhalb des Toleranzspielraums des Tests befinden, auch wenn sie nicht der EN 590-Norm entsprechen. Eine Probe der Autobahntankstelle in Les Adrets de l'est war beim Flammpunkt deutlich zu tief.

France: It roughly states that 28% of the samples taken from a total of 31, had a flash point below the norm. One in Les Adrets had a very low flashpoint. This can happen when too much bio vegetable derived diesel is mixed with the usual mineral diesel.

Switzerland :

In 28 samples, only one narrowly failed the norm (a 3.5% failure rate)

I believe a lower flash point will result in misfiring in the engine, leading to abnormal wear on the bearings.

So you pays your money and takes your chances...

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I suspect you won't notice a difference, I do t believe a misfire will effect the bearings in any way. I would be more worried about Pistons but the car would be un drivable long before any damage would be done.

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We have been running a merc diesel van on jet fuel JET A-1.. similar to paraffin for years.. it works perfectly fine so wouldn't worry about french diesel ( Wtf anyway? )

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Problem with French diesel is it is full of garlic, you need to chew a lot of mints.

Actually diesel cars will run on almost anything, I had a friend who ran his on used oil he bought from fish and chip shops.

I believe modern diesels are more particular about their diet?