Question about putting my dog to sleep...

It is terribly upsetting to have to even ask this...but my sweet beagle has bladder cancer and will soon not be able to urinate, requiring that I put her to sleep. After all the treatments, we at least have gotten much more time with her than expected, but this will be a new experience for me here in Switzerland. Knowing that I will be beside myself when this happens, I thought I should be prepared. The oncologist is thinking within the next month...

Question 1 -So...in US when my friend put her down down, the vet came to her house. I would prefer this and didn't know if anyone knows of a vet in the Stäfa area (north of Rapperswil, south of Mielen) who will make a house call for this? My dog hates going to the vet at this point...

Question 2 -Will it be a problem with the vet here in Stäfa if I do have to take her in? We have seen him around 3 times when we first arrived from the US for shots, registration, etc. but generally have seen the oncologist in Hunenberg. However, oncologist is an hour 45min. train ride and not something I can do when this happens. He knows of her condition, but she will appear to still be healthy...just not able to urinate. Do I need a letter from the oncologist or something?

Question 3 -What will happen after. In the US, my friend opted for a mass grave and the vet removed the dog afterwards to take to the mass grave site for cremation. I am not one who can keep an urn or anything, and just want to know that...well, it is kind. Anyone familiar with the options?

Question 4 -costs? I have spent thousands on her treatment up to now...nothing we can do now. I do not want to be elaborate-with a burial or anything like that. Just would like it done in my home or garden and then...? I wonder about simple options and the costs of all of this.

Thanks for help,

K-

Hi.

You have mentioned that you have seen the vet already in your area in Stäfa. Why not ask him/her the same questions?

I can only speak for myself when I say that being present when my dog was put down (at the vet) was not pleasant. Although I was relieved that she (a retriever) did not have to endure pain any more. And I don't see how this experience can be wholely pleasant.

We dug a hole in the back yard and buried our dog there. I also placed large rocks over the hole to prevent other animals from digging it up.

However it turns out I hope it is the best solution. This is in my opinion something which you need to think through very carefully and judging by your comment you share my opinion.

good luck !

So so sorry to hear you are going through this with your dog friend. I totally agree with you, the best money we've ever spent on our first dog, is to have the vet come to our house, thus avoiding the trauma of a journey when in pain and as he hated going to the vet's.

We are all different - for me, what happens to the body afterwards is of no importance at all- what matters is now. Each Commune has different rules - the main one all over CH is that you are not allowed to bury a pet in your garden or countryside.

Ask your local vet - they will know of different options - but whatever you do, don't be bullied into one of the expensive fancy options (unless this is what YOU want). I'd go and see my local vet and explain the situation and ask for advice and the cost of a home visit (when that awful day comes- and again, personally I'd always say sooner than later if an animal is suffering). Thinking of you.

It's not very well adhered to then, as I know plenty of people with pets buried in their yards here.

We opted for cremation for our cat.

Tom

I agree with Odile, and would suggest that you contact your local vet and discuss the matter with him.

As for disposal of your beagle's remains, I believe it is possible to bury your dog provided she weighed no more than 10 kgs.

You can also opt for "communal" cremation if you do not wish to keep your dogs ashes.

My thoughts are with you. It's never an easy path to tread.

Talk to the vet and ask what is the cheapest simplest method. My advice tell the vet you cant justify a big expense so if he can put the dog to sleep and handle the disposal then its all done and dusted.

The quicker and easier you make it the better it will be

I am really sorry to her about your four-legged friend.

Here is a link to a pet crematorium in Kanton ZH.

http://www.tierkrematorium-derrer.ch/about.html

So sorry for what you are going through

If you decide to cremate and keep the ashes, the person from tierkrmatorium comes to collect the body and you get ashes in a box in the mail a few days later.

Cost was about 450 chf, for a 30kg dog so likely cheaper for a beagle.

http://www.tierkremation.ch/site.php?id=1&langid=1

I wish you strength.

K

Kargatorfan, first let me say how very sorry I am. This is the hardest part of sharing our lives with our furry friends.

I have stood in your shoes too many times, and from my experience:

I have always felt it very important to stay with my friend through the end. My touch, my voice has made the process easier for my dog - which is the most important thing. The only important thing.

I prefer that the vet uses a sedative first, so that when the final drug is inserted there is no pain. This is the usual method here in Switzerland but one should discuss this first with the vet.

Most vets will do a house visit, usually charging for traveling costs in addition to the regular fee. But the costs are not much, and if that is what you prefer well worth it.

Do I remember that you have a second dog as well? If so, please think about how you want to handle this in a home situation. It is often recommended that the second dog not be present during the euthanasia, as you want to be focused on your poor beagle - but that afterwards the second be allowed back in the room to sniff the body of his/her friend, so that there is an understanding that the friend is indeed gone.

However, this very much depends on the relationship the two dogs have, on the sensitivity of each dog. But do think about that aspect.

One thing to be aware of if you choose euthanasia at home: it is common for the bladder to release urine upon/after death. You might want to place your dog on a washable blanket so that you can cuddle him in the last moments.

I had planned euthanasia at home, but circumstances haven't worked out that way. Even so, euthanasia at the practice has also been a gentle, comforting experience. (As much as can be.)

Most of the time I have had my general practice vet perform the euthanasia rather than have it done at Hünenberg or the Tierspital, even though we were seeing specialists at the end. This is because the smaller practices are a low key atmosphere, which I felt was best. One time was at the Tierspital, and even under such circumstances I must say that the vet handled it with all the empathy and kindness one could wish for.

For your sake, I would suggest that you make an appointment with your local vet prior to the euthanasia - just you if you don't want your beagle to go through the stress of the visit. Speak with your vet about the process, decide what you want done, what you don't want done; you will feel better if prepared.

I know that the good folks at Hünenberg and the Oncology Center kept in touch with my vet throughout my dogs' treatment; when it was time no one questioned my decision. Most vets here are very sensitive, understand that the person best able to make the decision is the owner.

When possible, my vet schedules euthanasia at the end of the day, when no one else is around. This way you may take all the time you need, before and after.

I have always opted for cremation. My vet arranges this; most do as well if that is what you want. You can have an individual cremation where you get the ashes back, or opt for cremation in a group. The latter is less expensive. When group cremation is done, I know that Schaffisheim scatters the ashes in their memorial garden, a lovely gesture - I don't know what other animal crematoria do, but you should ask if that is an issue for you.

If you opt for individual cremation you may also ask for the ashes back to keep or scatter yourself. I chose to scatter the ashes of one of my dogs on one of his favorite mountain trails.

If you wish to organize a cremation yourself you may do so - call the crematorium ahead of time so that someone is scheduled to receive your dog's body.

The cost of cremation will vary by body weight, and whether it is an individual or group cremation. Expect something in the order of CHF 200 for a group cremation, 400-600 for individual, including the urn. Less if you don't want an urn.

As to burial - if you are renting this is problematic, you'd need the landlord's permission. Whether burial is allowed or not is a Gemeinde matter; many Gemeinde do allow it but only for animals under 10kg as another poster mentioned - and only if the property does not lie in a green zone, landwirtschaftszone, or other protected area. Check with your Gemeinde as to the specific rules if this is an option you wish to pursue.

It is good that you are thinking about this now, while your head is still clear. It is often a good idea to discuss all this with the vet beforehand so that he notes your wishes - because the emotion of the moment makes it difficult to do much clear thinking or decision making.

Again, I am so very sorry - you have my heartfelt sympathy. I wish you and your family strength in the days ahead - but be at peace that you are doing the right thing for your dog. It is because we love our four footed friends that we do not allow them to suffer.

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I'm so sorry for your pain.

Even though it's so hard, love really does require not to leave a pet in pain, so in my humble opinion it is the right step to take, and it is one I took too.

When I had to let my young cat go (he was only 5 and had severe kidney and bladder problems) I took him to the vet. He asked me kindly if I wanted to leave him there and leave. I refused, we had shared a lovely journey I wanted to be there for him. I gathered him into my arms while the doctor gave him a 1st shot to make him drousy, more peaceful and unaware. Then the doctor administered the final shot and the light left his eyes. That was all.

It was peaceful, the vet was very nice. They kept him and cremated him ..and thoughtfully returned his collar to me.

I don't remember the cost but it wasn't very much and I didn't care.

There is peace in letting go when you know that the suffering will stop.

I don't think they make house call here, but they really do make sure that your loved pet is unaware and unafraid.

Here there is 2 types of cremation 'normal' eg with other animal carcasses, waste, which is very cheap. Or special 'pet only' cremation, a bit like human ones, where you get the ashes back (cost for our local NE Montmollin centre is 100 to about 500 CHF + urn).

For me number 1 is fine - as I have no attachment whatsoever with what happens after death, the cost of the vet coming to the dog's home is far more important for us.

Thanks to all for your replies! I have not connected well with our local vet as I haven't seen him much, but as suggested, I will talk to him about some of this. I also found, listed on Petfinder.ch, a vet in Zurich that makes housecalls. I do have two dogs, as Meloncollie mentioned, and was told by a friend that it is better for him to see the body...another reason I don't want to be in a vet office. Like Odile, I too do not have an attachment to the "after" but only want to know what will happen. No burials in my yard, not possible, plus not something I can handle. Also, cost isn't my main concern, but I like to know what to expect. I keep finding myself surprised with the costs of everything here! I opted for some treatments and not for others and was very happy with all I did...but now we can do nothing more except plan...which all of you have helped me with by taking time to provide your responses.

Again...thank you.

Karen, Murphy, and Emily

I think that the others here have done a good run-down of the process in Switzerland, but I just wanted to reiterate that the process was handled incredibly sympathetically when I had my cat euthanized a few months ago.

From what I understand, it is almost universal that vets in Switzerland sedate the animal before they administer the euthanasia. If you are taking the animal into the vet to have it euthanized, it's best to make this clear when you make the appointment so that you can schedule the appointment at a quiet time.

More than anything, I didn't want to have to wait in the lobby for ages. The vet told me to come in for the first appointment after lunchtime, so he knew that he would be free and not keep me waiting. The receptionist knew I was coming and took me straight back to the treatment room so I didn't have to wait.

There wasn't a long discussion with the vet about whether this was the right time to euthanize my cat. He knew that I was doing what I believed was best for the animal, and that any different decision would only have meant a matter of weeks. He carefully explained the procedure, administered the sedative, and left me for a few minutes to say my goodbyes. About ten minutes later, he came in to give the euthanasia.

We discussed home euthanasia, which the vet was willing to do, but it does add extra cost as you will be charged for travel time.

Animals here are routinely cremated, although there will be an extra charge if you want your animal cremated separately and want to retain the ashes.

Unlike my normal visits, I wasn't expected to pay at the time of the treatment, nor in-advance (as is often the case in the US). They sent a bill to the house a few days later, so that I could leave immediately as soon as I was ready.

I know that this is an incredibly tough decision, and I wish you strength and courage as you go through it. At least in my experience, the whole thing was handled incredibly sensitively, and I felt enormous relief at the end of it. The weeks leading up to the event were far more difficult than afterwards -- in the end, I knew I had done what was best for my pet and that she was no longer suffering.

So very sorry to hear about this. If you can find a vet who could come to your home that would be the best solution. It is already bad enough you and your pup have to go through this and you have to say good bye forever, it would be good to spare him the trip to the vet, which, I assume, would scare him unnecessarily.

I had to make the decision twice, one time the vet came to our house, the other time the dog was in the clinic after an operation and they did not want to wait for me to come, as the dog was suffering.

One dog dropped dead while walking and the story of Cazimir everybody knows. That was all terrible, but somehow it spared me the dreaded moment when you have to decide about your pet's fate.

My vet was also extremely sympathetic when the time came to put Susie to sleep. He also arranged her private cremation, and I received Susie's ashes about 3 days later. Dr C is an excellent vet, but his handling of what is always a difficult, delicate situation, was truly exemplary.