Questions for car drivers

I try to park at the edges on a carpark, meaning that nobody can park right next to me. Park spaces are just soooo bloody tight and I hate having to squeeze myself into a ten centemeter gap

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While I won’t be flashing my lights at you I will be looking for the next opportunity to safely overtake, and I know the roads, so don’t be surprised when I fly past you somewhere you may not expect. Even when I’m in the battered old Land Rover :open_mouth:

It’s often worthwhile looking at the plates of other vehicles in the mountains to spot the locals who likely know what they’re doing, or to leave even more space if there’s a Zurich or Paris plate around.

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Tried it, ran into countless adverts qnd popups.

My thought too.

Don’t forget the Speed Limit is the Maximum speed you should be doing. Not the only speed or the recommended speed. Why should I drive outside my comfort zone just because the person behind me knows the road better than I do.

But unlike a lot of other drivers I will find somewhere to pull over should I get a bit of queue behind me. 4-5 cars or so.

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I pull over too.

Not necessarily because I am going too slow for the conditions but the cars behind are going to fast. But who am I to judge. It’s not my job to police their speed, even if the roads may be slippery from rain or ice.

When I’m on my bike going down hill, sometimes drivers are kind enough to let me pass. It works both ways.

I never expect other drivers to go over their own personal speed threshold, but I do sometimes get annoyed by some who, for example on restricted motorway areas, will stay in the left lane but slow down to the speed indicated on their speedo and block others who know that their speedo overreads and can safely and legally go faster.

It’s not their speed that’s the problem, but that they stay in that lane instead of pulling across and can often cause a queue of traffic who just want to drive at the actual speed limit, rather than 10kph below it. I’m sure some of them do it deliberately in a self-righteous, I’m policing your speed as well, sort of a way.

Also, we live in a place where the roads are not flat. Some passengers cars can’t keep 120 kmh while going up (small engine) or while turning fun curves (risk of overturning, slipping).

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Most times when I’m behind someone dawdling along, it’s usually temporary because they seem to be looking for a turn-off or address, shop, or whatever, and they’re out of the way after a few hundred metres. Otherwise they are perhaps elderly or nervous, and while I’m pretty sympathetic and don’t let it spoil my day, it’s still poor roadcraft. My driving instructor drilled me constantly if my speed was dropping for no particular reason, and it can be a fail on a driving test. Obviously you adjust for road conditions.

Don’t think I’ve encountered anyone deliberately policing the speed on the road but maybe I mistook them for a doddery old duffer and just let them pootle on. :face_with_hand_over_mouth:

I’ve noticed some cyclists attempt the same TBH. A bit of a high and mighty ā€œi’ll allow you to pass when I think it’s appropriateā€ kind of way.

Hey, they’ve spent a lot of time sculpting that little cycling-booty, they want you to get a good look… :wink:

Yeah, they’re taught that to stop car drivers trying to overtake where it would be dangerous for the cyclist and other road users - such as a point where a traffic island is in the middle of the road.

It’s called the primary road position.

You may think it’s an inconvenience for you but we all share the roads and you don’t have more entitlement than others despite what you may think or believe.

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Quite so, I do this as well, although I’ve always found that French (and Swiss? round here on the mountain roads anyway) drivers are much more tolerant and considerate of cyclists than they used to be back in the day in the UK.

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Sure, that’s normal - I’ve even been that vehicle myself before I added 20bhp to the Land Rover with a chip. Not the same thing at all, and very much accepted on the steep twisty alpine roads up here.

As a cyclist, the motorists here are fine. It’s the other cyclists you’ve got to watch out for.

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Fair enough. Maybe the car drivers mentioned above are doing the same, attempting to stop other vehicles from overtaking them where it would be dangerous for other road users.

I’ve actually only seen this once here (where there could have been no mistake what the driver’s intentions were).

They positioned their car in the road so a car driver coming the other way, trying to pass between me on my bike and their car on a dangerous corner on a narrow road wasn’t able to do so until they were safely past me and the impatient driver could overtake without endangering me.

I’ve written before on here that it is possible to influence other drivers’ actions with your own driving and been ridiculed by a few ā€œspecialā€ people but this is such an example.

Anyway, I don’t want to turn this topic into a cyclist against car drivers thread so we ought to stick with driving.

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I mentioned motorway fast lanes specifically, so no.

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