As I understand the SuperSaver ticket rules is that you are buying a specific journey from A to B via C (etc). By using the App you are offered the ‘best’ journey based on your departure time and origin and destination. The availability of the SuSa tickets appears to be based on the rail portion of your journey and not connecting buses.
So if I buy a SuSa ticket for Zurich Letzigrund via T2 & T3 to Zurich HB to Nyon and B810 to my village am I required to take the exact Trams and Buses indicated on the tickets? Or could I head to the city centre a couple of hours earlier and/or take a later bus from Nyon so I can stop at the Migros for some groceries?
Reading the rules I cannot but I would appreciate anyone’s personal experiences. Are the Zuri/Nyon Transit people going to care if you have a valid ticket, but not for that Tram/Bus?
personal experience: you need to take EXACTLY the trains/buses indicated, at the TIMES EXACTLY indicated…
otherwise, you are getting into trouble. (except if the train gets delayed, and you cannot make the connection, that is, but they can see that also on their telephones.
Upon scanning, if you are out of the scheduled connections, their app will automatically show an ‘invalid’ ticket…
Oh goody! What a way to make Fr. 90.00 … is the SBB in the red again or why are they getting this inventive?
edit: Guess people buy these tickets to go somewhere they have not been before. They’re guaranteed to get delayed somewhere. And with what omtatsat told us about Zurich trainstation where not even the indigenes find the tramstops anymore, this is a great way to make money, truly.
Could you not just buy the supersaver for the train portion of the journey and purchase separate tram/bus tickets to be sure you’re not running afoul of the rules? That’s the most expensive bit of the journey anyway. I don’t imagine you “supersave” much within the city, if at all.
When I buy a super saver, I buy the train or “big” part of the journey. Taking the train to Lugano from my house, I will search for a supersaver between zurich and Lugano, pick the one that suits best and then just buy a regular ticket to Zurich (bus ticket and train winti to Zurich) so I have to take the specific train selected on the supersaver, but whatever suits for the smaller portion of the journey.
You get better choices too. If I do winti- Lugano I may not find a supersaver, but there may be Zurich - Lugano options.
It depends on the day and route. Last time I bought one, it was not much more expensive to take a supersaver in 1st class versus a regular/flexible ticket in 2nd class.
I did a random search for this weekend. A normal 2nd class ticket from Bern to Zurich is 26.50 with a half tax card. First class is 45.50. The supersaver for 2nd class varies but is around 20. The first class also varies but is around 31-34 CHF.
As 3w said, it depends. In January, I bought a round trip winti-Bern and I think I saved nearly 50%(off the regular halb tax for first class).
But on average i think you save 20-30%. The earlier you purchase, the more you save for the most part.
Well for my particular journey if I limit the SuSa to Nyon - Zurich and then add a bus ticket and Zurich 24hr ticket I am back close to the full end-to-end fare.
Your Supersaver ticket is tied to all services listed on your ticket. You cannot use the tram/bus at your own leisure.
It is possible that for certain connections there are no Supersaver tickets available because the local fare network does not support them. In this case, you can possible get a train station to train station ticket.
Pretty much confirms what everyone says.
It is a real pity that with SBB you cannot build your own journey sector by sector and then ask for the price. Of course separate tickets are always possible, but are seldom are similar in price to a through journey.
No reservation. The point is they want to shift people off the very full and pretty full trains to those that have lots of seats available.
We are going to Zürich to see Ed Sheeran and we have a choice of trains, if we can go on those that are traditionally less full we can save some money.
Supersavers always create complications when there are train delays and connections are missed, or when people don’t take the mentioned route to the destination as there could be many routes to the their destination, or you board a wrong train which generally happens to tourists as they are travelling for the first time, just to save, they end up paying more in the end. Then they are slapped with a good fine and recorded in their database as an offender. Also, buy tickets before you board.
Happened to me once, bought a ticket after like 30 secs I got onto a train journey of 1 hour, and inspectors were especially hunting for such culprits. As they saw me running to the train in a hurry, 1 min before departure, after the train started moving they directly came to me to check, although I had already bought the ticket from my SBB mobile app by the time they arrived, they said it was not valid. After they issued a fine, called SBB and they reduced the fine a bit, I think they reduced it from 90 Fr. to 60 Fr.
Few years ago you could buy a ticket on the train, if the ticket inspector comes and you say you want to buy a ticket (happened once when I was going to the airport), he was fine with that, but with everyone accustomed to using mobile apps now, they don’t accept buying tickets on the train anymore, and you get slapped with a fine of not having a ticket.
Other scenarios involve a fine that your ticket is only partially valid, still you get a fine but a smaller amount, for instance, wrong train, wrong direction, wrong passenger class etc.