I’m in the “Some places have far too many speed traps” group.
It’s especially nasty when then change a speed limit from 60 to 50 but your dashboard still reads 60. That’s pure evil.
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Obviously people would be speeding even more without them. It’s their free choice.
Because the speed limit changes constantly, it’s incredibly easy to “speed” in Switzerland. Some drivers, of course, can’t be bothered keeping to the speed limit but others just didn’t notice the speed change.
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I thought only in Eastern Europe… 
Quite often a section of 80Kmph road seems to get downgraded to a 60Kmph speed limit after a series of accidents because people are going faster than their driving ability.
The Swiss-Germans have a phrase for this: “selber schuld”.
Looking at Police accident reports it would seem like vehicle accidents fall into two main categories here:
Vehicles involved in an accident where the driver is the only participant (and probably couldn’t handle the conditions or were otherwise distracted).
Vehicle drivers mowing down young children when really they should have been more observant and much more careful.
There are quite a few stretches of roads in Switzerland that appear to be out of town yet some idiotic 50 or 60 limit applies. Some cantons are notorious for robbing motorists there.
No need to dramatize.
No need to over dramatize…
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It is robbery though. With laser guns.
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“Selber Schuld” is a condescending saying used by Schadenfreudig people. I’ve hated it from the first day I heard it.
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I hate it too but it seems to be in common usage here.
Not by everyone. I find it is being used less and less.
Rarely heard in Romondie.
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To me it depends on the context. I prefer a culture where the assumption is that people are responsible for their own actions, rather than the US where the assumption is that misfortune is someone else’s fault.
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There’s an upside to speed and red light cameras.
They don’t care if the driver is young, old, skin color, country of registration of the car…nothing.
So, no bigotry, that’s a big plus 
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I think she’s referring to sections of road that go from 100 to 60 to 80 to 90 or whatever over the course of a couple of kilometres, not over the course of time. These changes do make it very confusing and can be distracting.
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The road between Neuchâtel and Bienne is like that, the speed limit is constantly changing and there are loads of speed cameras along that route. It’s a nightmare driving that road.
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We talking about the same thing.
The difference is that I’m giving a valid reason why it is so rather than believing, like others are, that it is only to make money.
If people find that they are having trouble keeping to a changing speed limit then I can only suggest that they reduce their overall speed to allow time to cope with those changes.
Remember that a speed limit is a limit, and not a target.
Quite so, one should aim to be around 4% over it if at all possible. 
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A sneaky Police speed camera caught someone in Thurgau yesterday - doing 160Km/h in an 80km/h zone:
On Monday afternoon, the traffic police of the Thurgau Cantonal Police carried out speed checks on the side road between the hamlet of Dickihof and Basadingen.
At around 12:30 p.m., a car was recorded by laser at a speed of 160 km/h. After deducting the safety margin, the 31-year-old driver exceeded the speed limit by 75 km/h, which is equivalent to a speeding offense.
The Romanian is being reported to the Frauenfeld public prosecutor’s office. His driver’s license has been revoked. His car has been confiscated.
Source of the report: KAPO TG