The first thing to do is, find out after what time such debt lapses in Italy, it may do so after five years.
As has been said, those 49.- lack legal founding.
Why did the Italian company hand the collecting over (or sell) to the Swiss company? Why only now, after a tad more than five years?
https://www.konsumentenschutz.ch/the...t-musterbrief/
here's the sample letter in German. Fill it out where it's in italic and just send it off.
I had a case with a company called Creditreform, they were easy enough to reply to emails, so no registered mail was necessary (I did it anyway).
thanks for the advices, especially, user137.
so, at the beginning of august, i sent schuldtitel a letter based on the konsumentenschutz template.
i was away on holidays for a few weeks, and when i was back at the end of august, i saw two more letters from them, with the same initial bill of 60.03 CHF, with no mention of 'last warning' this time. (2.92 CHF pay toll + 8.11 CHF NiviCredit costs + 49 CHF Schuldtitel costs)
so, i sent them an email with a copy of my letter, asking why it was not processed.
they replied with which looked like a template e-mail, where they say the case will be closed when an amount of 35 CHF (not sure how this number is found) is deposited to the same bank account mentioned in the bill.
so, i reply that i am not satisfied with this amount, as the original pay toll is 2.92 CHF, and further amount is not legally claimable.
i get back the same email, this time the amount set to 11.03 CHF, which is the pay toll plus NiviCredit's "Verfahrenskosten".
i could have possibly fought until the original pay toll, but to avoid losing more time with further bouncing, i asked them to update the bill to this amount, which they sent as pdf. and i ended up paying 11.03 CHF.
i hope, i don't keep receiving further bills from them
cheeky bastards...
you shall get another mail that confirms closing the case as settled.
I'm glad you stood up to them
Hi guys,
I have exactly the same situation with Schuldtitel for speeding in Milan back in 07.2016
The bill is enormously high CHF 263.07.
I didn't really understand from the letter what was the allowed speed and how much I've exceeded. It just says the following:
ÜBERSCHRITT DIE VOM GESETZ VORGESEHENE MAXIMALE GESCHWINDIGKEITSBEGRENZUNG NICHT MEHR ALS 10 KM/H
The bills contains several line items:
Hauptforderung - Vorgangsnr: I081NR8003 CHF 111.95
Hauptforderung - Vorgangsnr: I081NR8003 - Verfahrenskosten CHF 102.12
zzgl. der nachstehenden Kostenberechnung
Ersatz der Rechtsdienstleistungkosten CHF 49
Total CHF 263.07
Can I just avoid paying legal costs and pay only CHF 111.95? It still seems to be very high.
Can you guys advise what should I do?
slow down in italy
Pay the full amount, and be happy that it wasn't more.
Tom
is it a Speeding ticket as per your title or a Toll you did not pay?
Politely ask them what the original fine was and maybe a small fee as it explained in a previous post in this thread.
Tom
Pay.
The crime was committed in 2013. Surely the statue of limitations has run out.
Article 201 of Legislative Decree 285 of 30 April 1992 (Nuovo Codice della Strada) as modified by Law 120 of 29 July 2010 establishes that violations of the Road Traffic Act must be notified by the national authorities to the responsible person within 90 days of the infringement.
According to the same article, for persons not residing on the Italian territory, the deadline for the notification is extended to 360 days.
The crime then falls intro prescription after 5 years (so a maximum period of 6 years).
That said - if you committed the crime... pay the fine.
The OP’s post dates from then.
bekon has revived an old thread and hijacked
It is defined a speeding ticket. It happened in 2016, so 2 years back. What are the consequences of not paying the bill?
Ask your legal insurance.
Tom
who has sent the bill? an incasso agency?
The bill was sent by debt collection company named Schuldtitel Online AG based in Chur
Unfortunately I don’t have any