Spinsterhood in Switzerland (Women over 30, single and childless)

Yeah, let's not mix attention from guys who scr*w anything that moves, be it married and/or with bunch of kids and genuine interest from honest guy who cares & wants long-term relationship. But former are so good for ego, right? And maybe it feels like they actually are the latter...

Ok, you beat me to it.

One word... Stella.

Meanwhile, I was "home" for the holidays, and who came chasing? Yup, the guy I was dating when I was 31+, who is now 50+. Nah, I like my groove just the way it is.

Post in off topic areas dont count towards the total

Probably was groaned at in posts which were later moved to Off Topic. The post count drops, but the number of "groaned at" posts possibly remains unchanged.

I did think and discount this, but then forgot that they could be moved!

Gosh, I am glad I tricked my man just on time then....

Indeed.

The two women I married were both over 30, the first, 36, and seven years older, the second, 48, and four years younger, but neither were spinsters.

Tom

a 30 year old is still just a pup.

Nothin' wrong with being single and free, nothin' wrong with being married and havin' a family.

You just can't have both.

I'm guessing you're trying to convince a woman to marry you, or something?

Cos what you're saying is rubbish!

Ps the way you talk about women and their 'value' is pathetic and outdated and shows you to be insecure. Honestly to me you're screaming out that either you've been hurt by a woman, been outperformed and you're trying to hit back. Well just face it, men are finally going to have to accept that women have started to and will eventually have equal status, rights and power . Just embrace it, don't be scared.

Indeed, in my book, a real man isn't scared of women with high IQ, high ambition and passion for her work, her family and success. A relationship based on both needs and goals with encouragement and support for no matters one wants to go, wants to achieve is what partnership is. A man feeling insecure from this should look into himself not into what is the problem in the woman.

We are in 2013. Women have the right to want to achieve as much as men.

At the end of the day, women who choose motherhood over career tend to be happier in their later life and subsequently less prone to depression. One advantage men have is that men can easily balance fatherhood and career. University-educated single women have a dwindling pool of like-minded marriage partners (especially those over age 30).

you're a Mormon?

Usually men are far more attracted to women in their mid-20s than to women in their mid-30s and beyond. The reason is biological. As women's years of fertility drop, their attractiveness also drops. 80% of women that are over 35 are no longer attractive to many males. Also if there is no 30+ men available is because the good one have already been caught by women including younger one.

You see more and more North American or Western European girls in their mid-20s who don't want want a relationship because they prefer to focus on their career. Men that are rejected by such women aren’t going to want careerist women because they can always get younger and more attractive women including nice and friendly foreign women (Asian, Latin, Russian, Eastern European, Middle Eastern/Mediterranean...).

The typical lament of single women at age 30:

“Where have all the men gone?”

I think it's because younger women still have belief. They still have a bit of an open mind. The older women get the more they are set in their ways of their experiences with the men of their past. No matter how right I am, women my age and older will never agree with me. Often times being crass about it. I can't say women younger then me will naturally agree with me either, but it's not conversations where I am constantly on the defensive.

Or part of some hated species. Talking to women on the same age as me has always be less easy going.

I hardly doubt a guy that has already had kids, and the expense and stress that they can cause, albeit for some mixed with the greatest feelings they can feel, want to dive right in and create more offspring with 20 somethings. Unless of course he doesn't have any kids, but then again, I don't see how that is any different with women of the same age without children themselves.

huh ? says who ?

statistics are against you.. married men live far longer than unmarried men, whilst unmarried women live longer than long term wives do.

Basically men are not good for womens' health

But they're loving good fun, touching, vulnerable, smart, kind, obnoxious, head-strong and sexy too... though slightly over-rated, so we get suckered into taking care of them, loving them through hell and high water and will happily cook, fold their socks and iron their shirts ad nauseum and foresake our own minds and ambitions for the sake of their pleasant limitations.

And the answer: "Back to their boyfriends"

Exactly.

Biology. Always. Wins